The Washington Post reported that activists are working with the White House on an executive order to declare a “national emergency” over America’s elections and pave the way for a power grab.

“Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17-page draft executive order that claims China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting,” reported the Post‘s Isaac Arnsdorf. “President Donald Trump has repeatedly previewed a plan to mandate voter ID and ban mail ballots in November’s midterm elections, and the activists expect their draft will figure into Trump’s promised executive order on the issue.”

Peter Ticktin, a MAGA activist in favor of the executive order, told the Post that “we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election processes,” and that “the president has to be able to deal with it,” including by banning mail-in ballots and certain voting machines.

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    The only thing holding a lot of Americans back from violence is the knowledge that that’s exactly the excuse the regime wants to declare martial law and suspend elections. If they just jump to suspending fair elections anyway, then there will be nothing to stop the gloves from coming off. The billionaires and Congress creatures better run for their bunkers. Anybody that the people perceive as having a hand in getting us to this point, either through direct action or failure to react, won’t be safe.

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      The only thing holding a lot of Americans back from violence is the knowledge that that’s exactly the excuse the regime wants to declare martial law and suspend elections.

      The only things holding Americans back from violence are relatively abundant food, entertainment and comfort. All of which will still continue to exist once free elections are gone. Plus what they replace them with will be branded super duper free elections, and that will be enough for a lot of people.

      There is little to no evidence that the 1/3rd of eligible voters who didn’t vote in Nov 2024 are any more engaged with what is happening than they were back then.

      All they have to do is orchestrate this coup in a somewhat intelligent way that doesn’t immediately collapse the economy and they can absolutely pull it off.

      Most Americans are not going to fight for abstract rights when their immediate tangible needs are being met.

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      Sounds like an excuse, no dictator has ever been held at bay by lack of action and this regime is not shy of pulling stuff directly from their asses.

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    States should declare emergencies first and protect themselves from the fed. Elections are handled by each state, not the government.

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    we held elections during a literal civil war. What “emergency” could trump that with all our modern life improvements and… checks notes. No civil war in America…

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      What “emergency” could trump that with

      He has no trouble pulling random excuses out of his ass.

      And on the rare occasion the courts eventually tell him to stop, he will have been doing whatever he wants for months and moths before he is told to stop.

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    Prediction: None of this so called evidence will ever make an appearance in a court room.

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      Because “emergencies” are the Wild cards given to the Executive Branch by Congress and SCOTUS. There’s no clear definition and no boundaries until he’s challenged in court or Congress overrules him.

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        And if he waits six months before declaring an emergency, there would not be time for the court to annul it

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        And at this stage, Republican congresscritters voting for fair elections is as likely as turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.

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    The Chinese government hates the US and, if they interfered successfully, would have done so to get Trump into office, since that would cause the most damage.

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      Huh? It’s our own election system. 2 corrupt parties for a long time. Candidates nobody wants and this is the result

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        The flood of troll farm misinformation and lies by both China and Russia as well as right wing ownership of MSM all aided in trump’s rise. Yeah, our shitty electoral college that is DEI for mostly empty States handed trump the win.

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            Both can be true at the same time. The extreme corruption of both parties because both are beholden to oligarchs are causing frustration, which is being amplified by troll farms.

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            Plenty of people voted for them. You just outed yourself. The only reason Trump is in is because 50% of Americans would not support a woman in office. I mean, who would want a moody, vindictive asshole leading with their emotions rather than their brain?! Right…

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              Bro. People looked at first term. First term was different as he had no power. And everyone is tired of corrupt status quo. So they chose trump over another typical politician. Yes it didn’t work out, but there were many reasons why people voted trump

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                The reasons people voted for Trump are racism and greed. Anything else is just lip service they tell themselves to make themselves feel better after their massive fuckup.

                Edit: because let’s be clear, everyone told the fucking dipshits what would happen as a result of a Trump presidency. Everything they said came true, the magats blamed Biden, and then they voted for Trump again.

                I am really struggling not to use the word ret*rds when talking about them.

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    Bold move in a nation with more guns than people.

    I’m not against a Gaddafi or Mussolini ending at all.

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    By Wikipedias count there are presently 51 on-going national emergencies in USA, 19 of them have been declared by Trump.

    The oldest still active one was made by Carter in 1979, it’s a sanction on Iran.

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    You’re the first Republican President since the civil rights act passed to have negative approval among white voters.

    You won the popular vote because for the first time in memory, high propensity voters are going for the Democrats and low propensity voters went for Republicans.

    Whatever you’re planning won’t be enough.

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        Saw a nice sign in a nearby town: “They want 1939 but they’ll get 1789.”

        At least some people are starting to get it.

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        The French didn’t exactly speed run it themselves.

        I’m currently listening to old episodes of the Revolutions podcast, and am midway through the French and it bares no resemblance to what’s going on now. Which, when it gets to the reign of terror, might be a good thing… But that’s the one part of it that I could see happening again.

        A lot of the terror was fueled by a murderous little shit with a bootleg newspaper. There’s a reason why lible and slander laws are so powerful in that part of Europe.

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          The administration bears no resembelence to the french revolution, more to when the rich back a dictator to ptotect them from reform and that dictator ends up cannibalizing them, like with Sulla in rome a generation before caesar. Or obviously hitler.

          He’s so old though, the succession will decide it, if they can hold onto it and fix elections for the new guy, with dems being the opposition I don’t see what would stop them either, certainly not newsome.

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          Along with a systematic elimination of the nobility and upper levels of the clergy, it was a post-revolutionary faction fight between the middle class (for example, provincial lawyers like Robespierre before he became a pamphleteer) and the working class.

          The 1789 revolutionaries didn’t really have much of a plan to govern in the unlikely event of victory, so they started improvising, and that didn’t go well. It also didn’t help that the leaders of every other country in western Europe wanted them dead.

          The American revolution, on the other hand, was bourgeois-led, with minimal involvement by working people, and they learned a lot from their initial failed attempt at governance, the Continental Congress, so by the time they wrote the Constitution, they had at least some idea of what would work and what wouldn’t.

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          The Revolutions podcast is a gold mine. Have you listened to the latest season? You’re in for a big surprise if you haven’t :)

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        Can we stop with this? This is a ridiculous fantasy that just makes you look immature.

        It’s too boring for American audiences. Now, woodchippers on the other hand…

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          I’d be more in favor of sending them to their favorite place on earth: Epstein’s island. No supplies, no running water, no help. Just a webcam and maybe a drone once in a while.

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          Woodchippers can’t handle the moisture content, but this is literally what industrial meat grinders are built for.

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          Or maybe it’s time to revive the method used to rid the world of Manius Aquillius: molten gold forced down the throat.

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    If this happens and civil war doesn’t break out than I fear good people will have lost.

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      “They say evil wins when good people do nothing. I disagree, it should just be ‘evil wins’.”

      So I’m of the opinion that it should be as costly a victory for the bastards as possible.

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    if this happens it’s over They are limiting who can give passports, some states are cancelling driver licenses of certain groups… they will choose who can vote or not

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    If he starts the civil war by ending our vote, do we get to start hitting Ice agents with our cars?

    Also make sure to be going 40 or over or they get back up.

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    activists

    The Washington Post thinks that traitorous conspiracies on the right are equivalent to protests and demonstrations by other types of “activist?”

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      The same Washington Post owned by billionaire Jeff Bezos? I’m shocked!