I placed an order but the max ram writen on the website seems to indicate 64GB max. But out of curiosity, is it possible to upgrade to 2x48GB or 2x64GB DDR5-5600 on the framework 16? Will it be support by the motherboard?
As as far as I check the Ryzen 9 7940hs does support up to 256GB of ram.
Crucial currently has the 48Gb dimm available.
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I’m not aware of any 64GB DDR5-5600 SO-DIMMs in existence. As it is, Micron/Crucial’s 48GB DIMMs are still pretty new. 64GB DIMMs do exist in the server space - They have for at least the last few years that I can recall… Sure they’ll be available for desktops and laptops sooner rather than later.
For reasons I outlined in a reply to a another reply below, I’m intending to go 96GB on my FW16 absent reports of new problems with Linux support emerging between now and Batch 5 shipping.
I’ve not seen any 64GB SODIMMS yet, which is likely why. When they to turn up, then you should be good as the spec sheet from AMD states 256GB.
The 24/48GB ones are not officially supported according to the Framework knowledge base. AMD haven’t validated them. They’re a new concept where the capacity isn’t a power of two number so it’s uncharted territory.
And what does one do with 128GB of RAM?
I’ll just speak for myself.
It would be quite useful for the sort of software development I do, where I want to run my IDE, applications under development, plus various databases – all in Kubernetes, Docker compose, etcetera, and ideally with realistic heap sizes.
It’s also handy for running integration tests that use TestContainers in parallel so I can run a huge test suite very quickly with, for example, 10 copies of the application and database under test at the same time.
I often have to do backporting work meaning I want multiple large projects open in my IDE at the same time. I like to enable all of the indexing features which enables lots programmer assistance functionality, but it uses lots of RAM.
It would be a entirely a luxury but not wasted, enabling multiple of these kinds of workflows to happen at the same time.
The question is whether you would just become hopelessly CPU-bound before being able to make use of it. I suspect yes, in which case, something more modest likely makes sense.
You’ve explained why I’m intending to go 96GB on my Ryzen 9 FW16, assuming sufficient funds are available closer to Batch 5 shipping. My primary use for a laptop, any laptop (aside from the Macbook Air I have to do user support for macOS), is being able to serve as a viable “desktop substitute” whenever necessary. Clients aren’t going to be happy waiting around on their projects with the excuse being “my desktop is non-functional” or because I needed to be away from my desk (but am otherwise able to get code/initial testing done). Though Cinnamon itself isn’t especially resource heavy IntelliJ IDEs, VMware Workstation, browsers, et al can very quickly chew up resources - Especially for larger projects.
Assuming AMD doesn’t massacre Threadripper non-Pro again, intentions are for my next desktop dev workstation to be a 24 or 32 core Threadripper (probably 8000 series).
Doing development in the “real world”, especially for small businesses, is very different than it used to be or from doing undergrad college homework. Projects can get quite a bit more complex… Also data center resources aren’t always available (or convenient to use) for interim “in-progress” testing. The fact that high end desktops with high CPU core counts/RAM are reasonably affordable combined with very capable laptops also being available is a win. Though I also have Raspberry Pis I use for testing/demo purposes on some smaller projects… In the past, before the advent of sanely priced workstations/high end laptops, either I or clients needed to maintain more data center resources… Spending a fortune to buy hardware up front and ongoing costs for DC rack space to put it in or by ringing up costs (by the hour) for cloud services. Now the investment is an “extra” few thousand dollars every few years (one time) for me to have higher tier workstation/laptop hardware running all the initial dev/testing… Saving data center resources/expenses for final staging/testing and production.
To add another software development perspective onto this, both Linux and windows cache files in unused memory pages.
So even if you had 128GB of ram and were using “only” 32 of it, say, your OS could make (around, actual number is slightly less due to various OS-nerdy things) 96GB worth of files accessible at RAM-speed, which is still better than even fast SSDs.
Cities Skylines with tons of mods.
Wow
I could eat 256 with work if I tried hard enough