• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    Replace your bank accounts, change your SSN, change employers, and move address.

    You realize most of this is basically impossible for most people…?

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      It is what it is. It’s a painful reality. Though “impossible” would be mostly exaggerated. Certainly it’s inconvenient in a country where most people are addicted to convenience.

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          Please read the linked article before commenting. Specifically, the title:

          All U.S. Social Security numbers may need to be changed following a massive breach that is already being investigated as a national threat”

          It’s only correct to call this “talking out your ass” if you intend to claim that an act of Congress were impossible.

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              Who’s they? By “they” you mean government. That’s not an atomic unit. The gov has many govs therein and those govs are not aligned. Read the article.

              “A filing summarized on Representative John Larson’s website states that DOGE workers used the third party service Cloudflare in March 2025 in a way that violated Social Security’s own security policies, and that DOGE employees attempted to pass sensitive personal records to an outside advocacy group seeking to overturn election results.”

              “The Department of Justice has since admitted in another case that earlier statements to the courts about DOGE’s access were inaccurate.”

              “A press release from the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees describes how Justice Department filings acknowledged that individuals’ personal data had been disclosed to third parties using a non-government server, and that DOGE operatives entered Social Security systems without proper authority, bypassing safeguards and putting bank accounts, health records, wage histories, and immigration status at risk.”

              So policy violations, inaccurate testimony, and improper authority… clearly some key gov agencies see this as a data breach.

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                The gov has many govs therein and those govs are not aligned.

                The government has many governments there in and those governments are not aligned? I know those words but not how you used them. English is clearly not your first language so kindly stop trying to start shit here. It’s sad how hard you are pushing something that doesn’t exist and doesn’t work like you think.

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                  1. You cannot comprehend English written by someone whose first language is English.
                  2. You cannot meaningfully articulate in English why you cannot comprehend it.
                  3. You don’t know that “therein” is spelled as a single word.

                  You’re clearly the one struggling with English.

                  There are literally thousands of governments within the US. The US loves to create new govs. If you cannot grasp that, then you simply will not be able to understand the problem with trying to consider “the gov” as a singular entity in this context. In the very least, you should try to understand that there are 3 branches of government. From there, copious jurisdictions divided by geography and scope of law.

                  Do a search on “ICE Minnesota” if you want to understand hard and fast how govs in the US can be unaligned.

                  I am not going to write a whole book right here so you can understand. Go back to school.

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        Are you a fucking bot? You’re not even American. Lol. Look at that name. Wow you motherfuckers are all over the place.

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        Moving is expensive and difficult enough for even a wealthy person. Depending on one’s circumstances, all of these things are difficult if not extremely difficult. Changing employers might be easy for some but definitely is not for others. Especially if you have kids or other people who depend on you.

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    Exactly how going do all the above. You know how hard it is to get approved with a new social security number? Besides soon as they issue it they will leak it. Hell most these leaks from corporations came from within not hackers. Take a look at most of the leaks and then check out where they outsource their customer service.

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      You know how hard it is to get approved with a new social security number?

      Read the title of the linked article. If it happens, it will not be a one by one approval.

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    Or just freeze your credit at the major the bureaus like you sold have done years ago. Which is way easier and actually practical.

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      Indeed you should, but it’s still insufficient. Musk did not get the data from the credit bureau. Freezing credit data does not prevent Musk’s exfiltration. Freezing your data also does not change the data. E.g. If a debt collector knows where you bank (from a leak), they can still tap that account directly even if your credit file is frozen. If a prospective employer knows your health history, you may be passed over for a job. Knowing your home address is useful for stalkers. All that info that was leaked is valuable to social engineers in countless creative exploits.

      (edit) One of the intended exploits by Musk is to manipulate elections. How do you think freezing your credit bureau file mitigates election manipulation when the data was taken from the social security administration? Even if Musk were to have harvested the credit bureaus, the credit freezes would not have impeded him.

      In any case, the best move w.r.t banking is to find a bank that is not a member of any of the credit bureaus. In principle, an account that extends no credit does not require credit worthiness. But banks are sloppy because consumers are pushovers. Banks systemically exchange info with credit bureaus anyway b/c consumers are not smart enough to demand otherwise.

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    Or take out the guillotines for those responsible and burn to the ground where that data is stored. The next ones who try it may think better of it, if you just change your data it’s a matter of time before they get it again

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      Moving to a country with some version of GDPR protection would be the most effective way to avoid a repeat.

      The US has what the Scottish call a “running goat fuck”. Americans’ data is compromised and abused repeatedly on large scales, to the point that when the data is exploited it can no longer even be attributed to a specific breach… too many breaches, too many fingers pointing. The only proper recourse is to bounce from the country.

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        How do you think that countries with a GDPR came to have governments concerned about that kind of thing? My option still seems better to me

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          By having people actively interacting with their government instead of ignoring it until it did something they didn’t like and then threatening them with violence.

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          Your option is a collective action. Mine is individual. These are not mutually exclusive. But I cannot do a collective action on my own. I don’t have a guillotine but I can afford airfare out and I don’t need to rely on actions of others to take the individual action.

          You must have a lot of confidence in democracy in the US to do right by the people. I’ll leave this quote here:

          “In the United States, the political system is a very marginal affair. There are two parties, so-called, but they’re really factions of the same party, the Business Party.”

          – Noam Chomsky (1990)

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    The same filing says confidential information on about one thousand Americans was sent to Elon Musk’s team…

    I wonder who Little Elon is so interested in?

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    Not that I’m fully versed in such things, but afaik the first and most effective thing you can do is freeze (?) your accounts so that no new ones can be opened. That prevents a lot of big issues.

    Might want to open a new bank account first though and divert your paycheck and savings there. You can have multiple bank accounts. Use the existing one for debit or something with smallish amounts of money in it.

    It’s much harder to move, change ssn, etc.

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      Indeed the credit freeze is a simple no-brainer. And it’s not mutually exclusive with any other action. Most people don’t realize credit freezing should be a default way of operating. Particularly in a system where you don’t have control over your data. Banks ToS vaguely say “you agree we can share your data with any credit reporting agency”. They typically don’t even name the credit bureau so you don’t have transparancy or control. Your blunt instrument is the choice to open the bank acct, or not.

      The best theoretical option would be to open an asset acct that disallows credit and then does not stick a fucked up credit bureau in the mix. Consumers are not smart enough to demand that and so I don’t believe any bank offers that.

      It’s much harder to move, change ssn, etc.

      Yes, but it’s not either or. You can make the data stale while also freezing your credit.