On Wednesday evening, a rifle-toting gunman murdered 18 people and wounded at least 13 more in Lewiston, Maine, when he opened fire at two separate locations—a bowling alley, followed by a bar. A manhunt is still underway for 40-year-old suspect Robert Card, a trained firearms instructor with the U.S. Army Reserve who, just this summer, spent two weeks in a mental hospital after reporting that he was hearing voices and threatening to shoot up a military base.

While the other late-night talk show hosts stuck to poking fun at new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson on Thursday night, Stephen Colbert took his rebuke of the Louisiana congressman to a whole other level.

“Now, we know the arguments,” Colbert said of the do-nothing response politicians generally have to tragedies such as this. “Some people are going to say this is a mental health issue. Others are going to say it’s a gun issue. But there’s no reason it can’t be both.”

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    I’m no gun scientist but I’m pretty sure more people are killed by cars than guns.

    We need more car control and reatrixktions on crazy people driving!

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      Bruh, you have to register your car with the government, you lose your license for driving drunk, you have to pass a test to prove you know how to drive.

      We have controls for driving, rightfully so.

      We should have the same and more controls on guns. This isn’t an either/or situation. Both cars and guns need sufficient controls to prevent deaths and injuries.

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        you have to register your car with the government

        Only to drive on public roads. You can own one and drive it around on your own property with no registration or a license at age 13 if you want. It’s not a perfect analogy.

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        Bruh, you have to register your car with the government, you lose your license for driving drunk, you have to pass a test to prove you know how to drive.

        yeah no one has ever driven an unregistered car or without a license

        We should have the same and more controls on guns. This isn’t an either/or situation. Both cars and guns need sufficient controls to prevent deaths and injuries.

        if we had the same or more it would still be less than the barrier of legal gun ownership in many states. anyone can get a license without actually knowing how to drive in a meaningful capacity. driving tests are insanely simple and you only have to take them once. sufficient controls would be reducing the reason to use either, whether it is justifiable or not. as it stands cars are still killing more people than guns but there is no national conversation on adding more restrictions on motor vehicles. this shows the reaction to the atrocities committed by mass shooters is just that, an emotional reaction in the heat of the moment.

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          yeah no one has ever driven an unregistered car or without a license

          “If someone breaks a law we might as well not have it” is a shit take that inherently advocates for the legalisation of rape, murder, theft, human trafficking, torture, drugs, drunk driving and literally every law we have.

          if we had the same or more it would still be less than the barrier of legal gun ownership in many states. anyone can get a license without actually knowing how to drive in a meaningful capacity. driving tests are insanely simple and you only have to take them once.

          This genuinely isn’t worth responding to. Nobody would say it in good faith and nobody would read it and be convinced.

          atrocities committed by mass shooters

          By former “responsible gun owners”.

          an emotional reaction in the heat of the moment.

          Yes, people who aren’t psychopaths have an emotional reaction to 20 more innocent people gunned down, the latest in a string of thousands, that we’re told we need to tolerate forever because men with limp dicks insist they’ll save the country from crime and tyranny, despite arming the criminals, voting for the tyrants, having neither military training nor the discipline to undertake it and being morbidly obese.

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            It was illegal for this guy to kill a bunch of people but he still did it.

            My point is more laws aren’t going to fix anything. Maybe try improving peoples lives instead of fostering the conditions that make people go crazy like this in the first place.

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              It was illegal for this guy to kill a bunch of people but he still did it.

              With his legally purchased, semi-automatic rifle.

              Isn’t it fascinating that we don’t seem to have any trouble using laws to keep landmines, grenades and high explosives out of the hands of domestic terrorists, but the moment it happens to threaten the hobby of middle aged white men and the profits of the gun lobby, laws are somehow powerless?

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                He was in the national guard. He probably also had a weapon issued to him by the military. What are you trying to say here?

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          Do you actually believe this, or are you just trolling? I genuinely can’t tell. Poe’s Law makes this impossible.

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      I’m not advocating for cars, but I’m pretty sure cars are significantly more used than guns, require a license to operate, and are not built to kill people (not entirely sure about SUVs but still).

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          Shame it’s convex. We could be seeing much farther into deep space.

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        Because it’s impossible to be a leftist that supports guns. As long as the cops and government are armed, so should the people

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          It’s amazing that actual adults fall for the “leftists need guns to keep minorities safe from the gubbermint”.

          Out of every comparable, wealthy country in the world, America is the only one with such permissive gun laws yet is still the closest to the authoritarian dictatorship you’re pretending to keep us safe from.

          Minorities in America are routinely hunted by far-right extremists with legally purchased semi-automatic weapons or executed in the street by police.

          But sure, share with the class exactly when we’re supposed to use our cool guns to fire on police, how exactly you expect that to play and when we can expect it to result in systemic reforms?

          You fell for a marketing campaign, created by me in suits to sell more guns to people outside the usual “white, male, right wing and casually racist” market.

          You may as well be posting tobacco company slogans.

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      You’re not gun scientist rigth… but what’s your opinion on the gun control today? Do you think the current situation is ok? If so, why America is so different than other countries regarding the number of death by gun ?

      What is your opinion on guns and only guns today ? (because you didn’t take a position at all. It’s acceptable if you’re a child but not if you’re an adult)