I’m planning the transition to self-hosted mail. I did fully self-host mail >10 years ago, so I know how to do it in essence, but I’d like to go a bit softer now, and not host outbound myself, it’s just too annoying.

What’s your take on that? Do you self-host SMTP as well? Why or why not?

If not, what providers do you use for it (especially in Europe, or even Germany)? How reliable are they? What’s the maximum attachment size? What do you pay for it?

  • lachlan-00@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I just host from my garage using courier http://www.courier-mta.org/

    Maybe it’s hard to do in other countries but in Australia I’ve done this since about 2008 and moved around a lot and used different static ips.

    Mail isn’t hard. Just don’t set up a shit server

  • kon_dev@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Not sure, why you want to host email yourself. If it is just for privacy reasons, you could also have a look into posteo.de (I am customer for years, no ads, nearly zero spam, you can even pay with cash if your like) or mailbox.org. German providers and especially posteo is really tracking a minimum amount of data, just as much as they are required by law.

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      1 year ago

      I want to host mail storage myself, mainly.

      Posteo, for example, is extremely expensive there. At 0.25 EUR per GB per month that would easily be a three-figure charge per month.

      I do have the infrastructure for backing up the data on the server, but archiving email outside of IMAP and managing my data not exceeding 20 GB or something is not what I want. My mail accounts can be hundreds of gigs and that is fine.

      My question is mostly about SMTP, which I do not want to do myself.

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        1 year ago

        Amazon SES is a virtually zero-cost solution for SMTP. You can set up a smart relay on your mail server or simply have users plug in the SES SMTP.

        The Exim mail server used in the free Hestia control panel also allows for using local SMTP or relayed SMTP on a per-dimain basis.

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    1 year ago

    I self-host incoming mail and send outgoing mail using Mailjet’s free plan to ensure deliverability. I’ve used them for several years and found them very reliable. Occasionally our outgoing mail is routed to spam despite having our DKIM and SPF records set per Mailjet’s instructions. I’m not sure anyone else would be consistently better based on emailtooltester.com’s annual deliverability reports. Their maximum attachment size is 15 MB, but they don’t recommend anything over 5 MB, as some providers block anything larger than that (which I’ve found to be true).

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    1 year ago

    I self host my own mail, SMTP in and out. But I’ve also had this vps in the US from a small local hosting provider for a decade. Unfortunately vps providers can be a crap shoot if you’re looking for a new one. My back up plan is this one goes south is to just use a cloud provider’s SMTP relay service (eg aws) because their prices for that sort of thing are extremely reasonable for small volume.

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    1 year ago

    I use mailjet with tls on port 465 for all self hosted

    it provides me with end-to-end security and ensures that emails arrive at the correct destination, it’s much less burdensome to manage

    Is free over 6000 mails / month (200 days)