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A lot of juice is at least partially from concentrate for exactly that reason anyway. Such a waste to package the end product rather than the middle one that already exists…
Depends. How much energy is used evaporating the water to make it concentrated in the first place? And how much energy is used with a frozen supply chain, instead of just a merely cold supply chain?
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I misread your comment as being focused on the energy considerations.
From this study, summarized here, producing and distributing “not from concentrate” juice uses less energy than concentrating and freezing, though (and lower CO2 emissions attributable to the process), because concentrating the juice takes more energy than shipping the whole thing. At least assuming the oranges are grown in Florida and sold in the United States.
That’s why I asked, because I knew that the U.S. relies more on imported citrus as the orange groves in Florida and California tend to get redeveloped into other real estate. And I’m wondering whether that analysis holds for oranges from Brazil or wherever.
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Edit: am I missing something? I don’t see any discussion of the difference in energy costs for shipping concentrates vs juices, just for production of concentrates vs juices?
Actually I don’t see it in the PDF, either, although the Stanford Magazine article quantifies it in a way that suggests it was reported somewhere:
Once processed, the juices have to be transported to the markets. The concentrated forms take less energy because of their compact size and substantially lower weight. Nevertheless, even the energy-intensive distribution of Not From Concentrate orange juice only amounts for 22 percent of the juice’s total carbon dioxide emission. Of course, the emissions in this step greatly depend on distance from processing plants (mainly Florida, and also California), but in most cases, this consideration is not important enough to shift the balance.
The study report itself calls itself a preliminary findings, and the reporting around it was that they’d publish full findings at some point later.
Either way, that’s why I asked. I genuinely don’t know the answer or whether/when the lines would cross.
where I live, it is cheaper to buy oranges in bulk from local farmers and squeeze them myself
one of the few perks of living in brazil
My Grandma makes this great drink called a bourbon slush, which is basically orange juice concentrate plus bourbon.
The younger generations are gonna miss out on so much
Oh man, I don’t think I’ve ran into anyone else that knew what bourbon slush is. I had a friend growing up and it was a staple of their big family gatherings. I actually had no idea how they made it until now, but I would always get a couple of tubs to take home with me. Highlight of the year during my college years.
Ha! noice. I would always eat it with a spoon
Make with the recipe already!
50% bourbon, 50% slush
So one can of stuff = two drinks?
that’s like 12 ounces of bourbon…
Also, you don’t really drink it… You definitely eat it with a spoon.
Also also, I definitely don’t have a recipe for it… I literally just learned from the commenter above me that it was OJ concentrate and booze… lol
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i forgot the stuff existed but at the same time it’s surprising to see such a longstanding product go
They just don’t want Trading Places to be possible again
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it’ll be pork bellies in the remake
Fuck Florida.
Fuck Florida!
One big reason I haven’t bought frozen concentrate juice in years: sugar.
But second biggest reason: price. Last I checked, the frozen stuff was nearly the same price as the unfrozen.
It used to be the much cheaper alternative. I’m not sure what happened.
I guess they dont want the WIC money
Well fuck. I’m highly reliant on the lemonade to mix with iced green tea.
That’s to stop Antifa from making napalm
I was thinking that.
