either caused something horrible (think millions-killing famines), became something horrible (think the national socialist german workers party, stalin’s soviet union, or stasi-controlled east germany), or turned capitalist to escape marxism. every single one of them. the modern “socialisms” are “democratic (non-marxist) socialisms” and they’re actually all capitalisms, plain and simple. i mean the countries like canada or germany that have healthcare for everyone. those certainly arent marxist socialism/communisms, those are plain old capitalisms with some good pro-social policies. but all the marxist states? ooohhhhh toxic. they all went bad or got out of marxism. all of them. the only reason people still think this stuff is good is… decades of soviet propaganda. anticapitalist (anti-west) (anti-united states) (the soviets’ greatest enemy) propaganda. it was all just meant to attack and discredit the west. the problem within the west is that this propaganda was effective enough over time to enamor people with the sound of the concept; it seemed an exciting alternative to their dull, follow-the-herd lives otherwise.