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I will say that I think Maduro is a piece of shit, but that’s up to the Venezuelan people to handle.
It’s not a bad thing he’s gone, but what happened was some bullshit.
i think he sucks, but i don’t think it’s good he’s gone. this hasn’t brought venezuelans closer to liberation. the opposite, in fact. i think the people celebrating just aren’t familiar with what a foreign occupying extractive economy does to a people
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It’s good that he’s gone. Everything else is fucked.
Imperialist driven regime change always go great. We’ve got Afghanistan I, II, and III, Iran, Guatemala, Hungary, etc
The Afghanistan Trilogy always surprises
That’s what I’m saying. It’s not good, but neither was he.
You literally just said it’s good that he’s gone…
The way he was removed was not good, but it’s good that he’s gone. Do you understand?
It’s good that he’s gone, now America can take all their shit. Great analysis dude 👍
I agree. Great that he is gone and many venezuelans are in fact celebrating. There would be many more if it wasn’t a foreign intervention.
As a US citizen, Trump and Vance are pieces of shit, but they’re suppressing votes and talking about cancelling mid terms, so it’s not like us people can do much. If someone took him and handed him over to Iran for the warrants they have on him for breaking international law the last time he was in office, a lot of Americans would cheer too.
Agreed.
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wildly unhelpful, @alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com . you’ve jumped straight back into reinforcing false binaries. i agree that the person you are replying to is in the wrong, but caping for authoritarianism is NOT OKAY.
you could just leave it at that a foreign occupying nation enacting an extraction economy on a people is wrong, immoral, unjust, and doesn’t bring anyone closer to liberation. instead you “pray for [someone’s] oppression”
i’m going back to blocking you and this community, but i’m going to ask you this. what do you want the world to be? just a bunch of campist fighting so long as you get to attack some liberals? enjoy. i want no part of it. i want to build a better world from the ashes of the old rather than renewing past mistakes.
accelerationism, making things worse for people, does not bring us closer to liberation. working and organizing into a robust movement of the people does. we cannot be free as long as we’re all just picking which imperial dictator’s to support rather than working together to burn them all down
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Why is he a piece of shit?
Because of everything he did and you can easily learn about all of that by using the most simplest tools available to anyone with the skill to use a keyboard.
I agree that OP is speaking in bad faith right now, so I’m just gonna leave this here for any passersby and not engage with OP directly.
From Wikipedias first section: Maduro was widely considered to have been leading an authoritarian government, characterized by electoral fraud, human rights abuses, corruption, censorship and severe economic hardship.[28] The United Nations (UN) and Human Rights Watch have alleged that under Maduro’s administration thousands of people died in extrajudicial killings and seven million Venezuelans were forced to flee the country due to economic collapse.
That’s what trolls and tankies do. They want a response so they can masturbate on it or something. I don’t know what the point is really.
Yea, that’s also my experience. I liked it a lot more when they stuck to specific instances, but here we are. I just added the above because I’m sure there’s at least a handful of well intentioned people that legitimately don’t know and won’t be interested enough to look it up, even if they believe you. Americans at least, myself included, aren’t always up to date on foreign affairs, even when our government is doing the meddling.
I don’t think I was being rude. I don’t know why you wouldn’t want to engage with me. I think you think I’m the other dude who deleted his comment.
I didn’t call anyone rude, so it’s possible you ment to reply to someone else, but the OP I was referring to is the person who posted the meme. They are in my replies and appear to be as bad faith as I assumed. It seems like you and I are in agreement that Maduro was a bad guy but the US had no right to abduct him. OP was asking why he was a bad guy and the person I responded to correctly assessed he was asking in bad faith. It seems like you already know he’s a bad guy. My comment was left to support the position he was a bad guy, but I don’t want to engage with someone who obviously has no interest in talking about the facts. I just wanted to add the context of his actions because I’m sure many people don’t actually know why he was widely hated.
ok my bad!
Ah yes, Human Rights Watch, The UN, and Wikipedia. All famous for totally not promoting western regime change. Remember Libya? LMAO
Can you just tell me what he did?
You are too dumb to look it up yourself?
No, you aren’t. You want to relativize, you want fallacies, whataboutisms, deflections,… I don’t.
I liked Chavez, he did some things right. Maduro was a worm.
Weird that you can’t provide a single point to support your claim. If he’s so bad you could just explain why…
It’s weirdest that you don’t want to make any effort yourself.
If you Google anything about Maduro it’s all western oligarch media reporting on a country they have a vested interest to overthrow.
I’m able to recognize that and proceed with caution, while you gobble it up like a good lapdog. Sad tbh.
What source would you trust that I could provide you? It’s somewhat universally agreed upon.
Then why was he democratically elected recently?
Why was Trump? Answer my question. What source would you trust and accept? I’ll provide you with a source. Or are you just a trolling tankie?
Trump was democratically elected because Americans love him and he represents their interests. If China abducted him and took control of US resources there would be an armed militia all across the country lmao
because Americans love him
No. Lol. A busted democratic system allowed for a minority of morons to have him elected.
He literally won the popular vote mate. He got more votes than Kamala… If she won would you say the same?
It’s getting real liberal in here…
