Today, the Dell XPS-13 with Ubuntu Linux is easily the most well-known Linux laptop. Many users, especially developers – including Linus Torvalds – love it. As Torvalds recently said, “Normally, I wouldn’t name names, but I’m making an exception for the XPS 13 just because I liked it so much that I also ended up buying one for my daughter when she went off to college.”

So, how did Dell – best known for good-quality, mass-produced PCs – end up building top-of-the-line Ubuntu Linux laptops? Well, Barton George, Dell Technologies’ Developer Community manager, shared the “Project Sputnik” story this week in a presentation at the popular Linux and open-source community show, All Things Open.

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    11 months ago

    $1400 for a non upgradable SSD and RAM, not to mention there are no USB, HDMI or audio jacks. What a ripoff.

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      11 months ago

      Project Sputnik didn’t start yesterday. It started in 2013 and Dell XPS was much different back then.

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      11 months ago

      Dell love pretending they’re the Apple of the Windows/Linux world, except the issue is that for one, people specifically bought their stuff for the things you mentioned, and that the build quality was not exclusively just black plastic. The current XPS is everything that people hated about the “Macbook” from almost a decade ago. The one with the first butterfly switches

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, I don’t get it. What am I gonna do with 2 USBC ports? What if the ssd dies? Nah, I’d rather get a framework

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        11 months ago

        The framework is cheaper when comparably equipped. It’s not even any thicker or heavier despite everything being replaceable. Dell just wants to make you pay a huge repair fee when the SSD fails.

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      Is it supposed to be submersible? WTF no jacks or ports?

      Non upgradable SSD & RAM?

      So Dell is trying to out-stupid Apple. Maybe they’ll come out with their own maps.

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      11 months ago

      linux users when a laptop that ships Linux isn’t absolutely perfect and cost $20 (they don’t care that it helps get linux to average users)

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        We are pretty happy with framework, tuxedo and system76 even if their products often cost loads of money and for sure aren’t perfect.

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          11 months ago

          and yet people still find ways to complain when a manufacturer that is twice as big as all of these examples combined ships laptops with linux to the hands of millions of people, most of the time costing less than offerings by these companies

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        11 months ago

        Soldered SSD and RAM is something we expect from a cheap chromebook. It’s just not acceptable in a high end laptop.

        There are plenty of other good laptops that come with Linux installed.

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          11 months ago

          including, *checks notes*, ah yes… most of DELL’s other offerings with linux pre-installed

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              11 months ago

              Is it something that depends on the region? In Brazil their Linux offerings are usually way cheaper precisely because you can forgo the Windows license.

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        11 months ago

        I came here to disagree with you, but in thinking a little about it, I’m not sure I do.

        I find the lack of ports and upgradability extremely problematic. And while I understand they’re supposed to be light, slim, quality laptops, the price point feels high even so.

        But, these are personal gripes with the device. And nothing to do with Linux. But these are basically the same things Apple aims for and people seem to love that.

        So, I might argue the price doesn’t make it reasonable for the average user. But otherwise the more devices with Linux pre-installed, the better.