All of the main servers I’ve seen have a no porn rule. I suppose it’s only a matter of time until someone’s willing to stand up their own Lemmy porn server and take on the responsibility of moderating that.
I suggested to PornHub that they should host their own lemmy instance for porn. It’s stuck in limbo though awaiting mod approval.
Edit: I’m curious, I see I’ve gotten two downvotes, can someone who downvoted provide a reason why? Just anti-porn sentiment? Do you not want porn on lemmy? Don’t like the company PornHub? Think it’s a stupid idea for some reason? I’m serious, I’d like to know why you seem to disagree with the suggestion that PornHub should host a lemmy instance explicitly to post porn on. It’s entirely possible I’m missing something here.
That is actually great idea, some organization hosting lemmy instance concerning their work.
Like Debian hosting free software lemmy communities, some marketing agency hosting design and creative communities. That way instances can ve snallee and manageable.
Of course it needs to get a bit more obvious how to use different instances.
I have a (dumb) question that I’m not sure you can answer. So my home instance is lemmy.one, and say there’s a porn instance. Porn isn’t allowed on my instance, but I can interact with and post to other instances. So I post a picture to a community on the porn instance. Is that content hosted on my home instance (against the rules) or on the porn instance where it’s allowed?
The way Lemmy hosting works is that it you upload a picture though the new post form, you upload that file to your instance.
That seems like kind of a problem/bad design. The actual text content of the post is stored on the other instance right? If the moderator of the other instance deletes your post, does the embedded media get deleted off your instance?
This is not at all how I assumed this would work, and raises some questions about the value of federation if you’re going to end up needing to manage multiple logins on multiple instances in order to manage their various posting policies.
Yeah, it was that last point that’s the sticking point. Like you I agree and would expect that when you post to a community you follow that communities guidelines, but since media apparently uploads to your instance not the instance hosting the community now you’re getting a 3rd party involved. If media was hosted on the same instance of the community I don’t think we’d have a problem and you wouldn’t need to worry about violating the posting guidelines of your home instance.
Personally, while I might create a “normal” account and a porn account, I definitely don’t want to feel like I have to do that. I think you should be able to create your account in any instance you want and post to any community you want (assuming said community isn’t on an instance which has had federation blocked from your home instance) without having to worry about the content rules of your home instance. I definitely think the embedded media handling needs to have a second look given to it.
You wouldn’t want instances to automatically store media posted from other servers, because that means that as a server admin you’ll have to deal with purging things like child porn from your server because some dickhead decided to cross post their trash to your community.
Wouldn’t you need to moderate the contents of the community anyway? Does it fundamentally change things whether the cross posting is done via posting from a different instance or by the poster just switching accounts? In either case the post is ending up in the community and you still need to moderate it. Having media stored in your home instance just makes things really awkward because now as a user I have to contend with both the server wide rules of my home instance and the rules of the community I’m posting in. I just worry we’re going to see things fracture into two nearly completely separate fediverses, there will be the NSFW adult fediverse, and then the SFW fediverse and you won’t be able to subscribe to content from one on the other.
All of the main servers I’ve seen have a no porn rule. I suppose it’s only a matter of time until someone’s willing to stand up their own Lemmy porn server and take on the responsibility of moderating that.
I suggested to PornHub that they should host their own lemmy instance for porn. It’s stuck in limbo though awaiting mod approval.
Edit: I’m curious, I see I’ve gotten two downvotes, can someone who downvoted provide a reason why? Just anti-porn sentiment? Do you not want porn on lemmy? Don’t like the company PornHub? Think it’s a stupid idea for some reason? I’m serious, I’d like to know why you seem to disagree with the suggestion that PornHub should host a lemmy instance explicitly to post porn on. It’s entirely possible I’m missing something here.
That is actually great idea, some organization hosting lemmy instance concerning their work.
Like Debian hosting free software lemmy communities, some marketing agency hosting design and creative communities. That way instances can ve snallee and manageable.
Of course it needs to get a bit more obvious how to use different instances.
I have a (dumb) question that I’m not sure you can answer. So my home instance is lemmy.one, and say there’s a porn instance. Porn isn’t allowed on my instance, but I can interact with and post to other instances. So I post a picture to a community on the porn instance. Is that content hosted on my home instance (against the rules) or on the porn instance where it’s allowed?
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That seems like kind of a problem/bad design. The actual text content of the post is stored on the other instance right? If the moderator of the other instance deletes your post, does the embedded media get deleted off your instance?
This is not at all how I assumed this would work, and raises some questions about the value of federation if you’re going to end up needing to manage multiple logins on multiple instances in order to manage their various posting policies.
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Yeah, it was that last point that’s the sticking point. Like you I agree and would expect that when you post to a community you follow that communities guidelines, but since media apparently uploads to your instance not the instance hosting the community now you’re getting a 3rd party involved. If media was hosted on the same instance of the community I don’t think we’d have a problem and you wouldn’t need to worry about violating the posting guidelines of your home instance.
Personally, while I might create a “normal” account and a porn account, I definitely don’t want to feel like I have to do that. I think you should be able to create your account in any instance you want and post to any community you want (assuming said community isn’t on an instance which has had federation blocked from your home instance) without having to worry about the content rules of your home instance. I definitely think the embedded media handling needs to have a second look given to it.
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Wouldn’t you need to moderate the contents of the community anyway? Does it fundamentally change things whether the cross posting is done via posting from a different instance or by the poster just switching accounts? In either case the post is ending up in the community and you still need to moderate it. Having media stored in your home instance just makes things really awkward because now as a user I have to contend with both the server wide rules of my home instance and the rules of the community I’m posting in. I just worry we’re going to see things fracture into two nearly completely separate fediverses, there will be the NSFW adult fediverse, and then the SFW fediverse and you won’t be able to subscribe to content from one on the other.