Preface
I’m not trying to call out the mod action of removing my post from the comm so much as I’m calling out the complete lack of mod action leading to the comm becoming shit and having the current top post by scaled, hot, and active being a post that explicitly targets another lemmy user.
That out of the way… !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world has clearly been slipping from the purpose of the comm for a while now. Most of the posts are actually infuriating and/or political. I understand that what qualifies as either of those can be different for different people, but I feel most of this shit clearly isn’t mundane or simple enough to fall under the label of just mildly infuriating.
Here's some examples from the first page right now, sorted by scaled.
While I could have sworn the sidebar had a no politics rule, it doesn’t at the time of me writing this up, so politics are arguably acceptable, although I personally feel these all clearly don’t match the theme of the community, violating Rule 7.
Sidebar, and expanded rule 7
A few other posts have been made calling this out.
Mod harder and [META] What actually constitutes “mildly infuriating” content?
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Beyond all that mess, we have what was the final straw for me.
Rule 1 (and less so 5), and the current top post by scaled, hot, and active.
I cannot accept that a post to mildly infuriating that targets a specific user while not even removing their username is respectful, and I personally consider it harassment (while it may not violate rule 5 as there is no call to action). Removing the username is usually the bare minimum even in the fucking reddit brigading subs, for plausible deniability.
And regardless of whatever arguments can be had about interpretations of the community’s specific rules, it’s a dick move. Just block the guy. It reminds me of the god awful reddit dogpiling and brigading. I don’t want any of that to come to lemmy.
So I reported it, then saw the recent posts asking mods for action that got no response. I then looked at the mods.
- LillianVS@lemmy.world (Aer) has not been active in two years.
- STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world (Striker) has not been active in one year.
- Tenthrow@lemmy.world had not appeared to be active for six days at the time I reported the post, but upon checking the community mod log was likely active two days before (assuming that the other two wouldn’t be just lurking and modding for over a year).
So I did something dumb as hell. Roughly an hour after I reported it, I made my own post (now removed from the comm). I find people who make call out posts about others, and the absentee mods allowing it, mildly infuriating. Yeah, childish as shit. What’s done is done.
Modlog:
Removed for “doesn’t fit community”, but what do you folks think? Does it really not fit when the top post is what it is? Personally I think both should be gone, lest that comm descend further into shit.
Either way, now that I have this yell into the void out of me, I’m blocking the comm. Maybe I should have made my post in actually infuriating? (kidding)
So, one might say, the situation is mildly infuriating?
Yeah, yeah… i know where the door is…
Agreed. Trump, Musk, Musk, Trump. None of that is mildly infuriating. And we have enough communities for geopolitics.
Personally I don’t see the top post as being ‘an attack on another user’ and the post is actually of something that’s mildly infuriating because reading posts where ‘th’ has been replaced with a symbol is mildly infuriating. I do agree that common etiquette would have been to remove the user’s name from the post, however it isn’t a requirement for something like this.
Also, yeah, your post was baiting the mods… shouldn’t be surprised by the result.
The way people seem to get whipped up into a frenzy over the thorn makes it inappropriate to include their username in the post. It’s an invitation for targeted harassment to make a post saying “isn’t what this one specific user does super-duper annoying? Please bitch about them with me in the comments.”
This isn’t Reddit. The comm is small enough that any regular knows who is the target of the post, whether or not the username is mentioned.
Then the solution is simply to not post it at all. It’s childish.
Did the guy ever explain why he replaces “th” in all his posts? It’s so odd…
EDIT: nvm I found it. He seems to think it fools ai scraping models. It doesn’t. He just hates ai. lol
User call-outs are (usually) bullshit, especially for someone who brings me as much genuine delight as the Thorn Guy.
I agree your post didn’t fit the community, I get why you did it though, and think it’s pretty awesome of you to defend someone else on principle. The mods just aren’t trying.
You could start one on another instance. There aren’t any rules against it.
And þeir title isn’t even accurate! It’s not replacing t, it’s replacing “th” 🤦 smh by head
(That joke was probably made dozens of times in the op, we’re defederated from lw though so I wouldn’t know)
Sorry bud, Ive been in the thread off and on today and once I saw your post get removed I just mentally wrote off the sub altogether. It really sucks to see so many people have such a visceral reaction to something so harmless and for it to seemingly be encouraged behaviour. Not the kind of content I’d like to see here.
People get really really weirdly rageful about thorn users. Ranging from “i instantly downvote that bastard” to going full right off their tits about it. And of course, as evidenced, making pissy callout posts.
I really do not understand the bugs up the arses. And i’m ASD with a particular bugbear about words in English. Makes me wonder how they react to ESL speakers
You know you can just block them right? And never ever see whatever is setting you off ever again. Have you considered trying that
Þe issue I see wiþ þ users is, a lot of þe time, þey use a þ when it clearly should have been an ð.
Depends. If you’re talking old english then yes, Eth. But if you’re in Middle english, thorn was king. Icelandic I think it depends on the location of the sound in the word. I think it’s thorn at the front and eth everywhere else? Don’t quote me though.
I believe the eth is the soft ‘th’ like thought, where your tongue is behind/on your top teeth, while the thorn is the harder, tongue in front of your teeth sound in the.
The more important question, is it þot or ðot?
Depends if you’re a Germanic incel or an Irish one.
Anoþer shæke-up in þhe fuðark community!
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Cool story bro.
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I just spent my lunch break searching through the mod log after I saw that your post had been removed. It’s super irritating that, even though I’d commented in the original post, all I could see was it’s title and that it had been deleted. I couldn’t see how to see the username, or to sort the mod log by community, instead of by user or mod action.
Anyway, I’m pissed on your behalf. Sure, the tone could have been more conciliatory, but you were posting about something that was irritating, but fundemtnally not a big deal. So, more on topic than the politics posts. And I don’t think listing the mods and their activity is harressment, you weren’t saying much except you didn’t think the mod team was very active and had the receipts to prove it.
I see there’s another post today naming and shaming a user who posted in a women’s only community, “quoting” a female coworker. I agree the poster is mildlyinfuriating, but I still think we’d be better blurring out individual user names, otherwise you’re inviting harassment. (just like the thorn guy, who does irritate me, but is perfectly entitled to carry on doing so without people abusing him).
Oh god. Had to look for that since I don’t follow the com.
The guy fucked up but it’s a dick move not to block his user name. And mine. I guess I can look forward to a week of angry incel trolls.
I kinda like Thorn guy. It makes me remember that the glyph was once part of the English language at some point.
R/MILDLyinfuriating is the same, its super infuriating or downright depressing.
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I cannot accept that a post to mildly infuriating that targets a specific user
Yet, you’re posting here … a community for targeting abusive mods …
And calling out someones bullshit isn’t “targeting” them.
YDI.
I absolutely deserved it.
But you’re leaving out some context and pretending that somehow is irony or lack of self awareness? I know what I did/am doing.
I don’t feel it’s respectful and rule 1 of that comm is “Be Respectful”. This post isn’t respectful and neither was mine that got removed.
I’d also argue that pointing to someone specific and saying “their actions give me a anuerysm” isn’t “calling out their bullshit” so much as a drive-by mini-rant.
There’s plenty of comments “calling out the bullshit” fairly well under that post about the thorn user: Depending on the time period of English, using thorn for “th” isn’t even accurate. It absolutely doesn’t achieve the intended effect of tripping up AI scrapers or poisoning their dataset. It’s a hindrance to smooth reading by other humans, and could cause issues with people relying on assistive technology. Those are all the ones I saw before I blocked the comm.
Beyond that, my own critique: It causes massive derailments of the conversation when people inevitably start commenting about the quirk instead of staying on topic.
Those are all “calling out someone’s bullshit” without inherently attacking the person. If the post had omitted the username I would have blocked the poster and moved on with my life. If it had also been more like the things I just listed, I would have just downvoted and hidden the post.
Simply putting a crosshair over the guy and going “this gives me an aneurysm” doesn’t actually do anything except say “this individual pisses me the hell off”, which is at the very least both not respectful and more extreme than “mildly infuriating”.
I absolutely believe that it’s targeting as well, but that’s a personal belief that isn’t anywhere as relevant to the coversation due to it not being as important to that comm’s rules. The argument stands without it.
