• MJBrune@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Honestly, Steam lacks a lot of pro-user rights. Developers are restricted by a lot of things that even itch allows you to do. Like a pay-what-you-want model or mentioning another storefront in your own demo/game. Not to mention that all you are truly buying on Steam is a lease to a copy of the game rather than the actual rights of owning a product. This sidesteps a lot of consumer laws in the USA.

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      1 year ago

      About the lease thing I agree, but Steam didn’t really remove any games, if they did was because the original devs decided so.

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        1 year ago

        I never said steam removes games but they absolutely do against the developers wishes.

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              From what I can read, the dev himself removed the game because of “stress”. Steam has previously removed the game for copyright reasons, but readmitted it afterward.

              The stress was due to the huge popularity the game got thanks to YouTube and Twitch.

              Rejecting is different than removing.

              I don’t know what the problem is between the Steam Store and itch, but your Google search confirmed what I just said: Steam never removed a game just because; they removed games that break copyright rules or their TOS.

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                1 year ago

                I never said “just because” in fact, I never said, “Steam removes games”. You didn’t even say “just because”. You said “Steam doesn’t remove games against the developer’s wishes.” which is entirely wrong as you now admit and moved the goal posts. This whole thing is a silly argument perpetuated by you.

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                  1 year ago

                  Just miscommunication then. All game platforms did that, so I don’t understand your point on bringing this up. Sony, removed Mobile Games from PsVita. Apple removed Fortnight from AppStore (and countless other apps). Probably Microsoft did that too.

                  I don’t know what you’re complaining about.

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                    1 year ago

                    You brought up that steam removes games. I said that Valve is just going after money like they always have. Like every other game company. You said valve has a more pro user stance, I brought up a bunch of examples how they don’t really have a pro user stance, you said yeah but they don’t remove games against developer wishes. I said that I never said anything about removing games but they totally do, as we’ve proven.

                    So I’m not really complaining about anything. I’m just not holding Valve up on a pedestal and saying they aren’t like every other company out there.