Any games where a remaster could never stack up to the original.

Inspired by this post, asking the opposite, what games do you think are worthy of a remaster: https://lemmy.ml/post/6091201

  • GreenMario@lemm.ee
    311·
    2 years ago

    Sometimes a simple port to modern systems with 60+ fps and widescreen/4K is all you need and in this case I say remaster everything good. There’s no excuse for a great game being permanently stuck on a Saturn or PS2.

    • metaStatic@kbin.social
      61·
      2 years ago

      ICO could never have the same impact on a flat screen.

      heck most of the greats are great because they played with the limitations of the day and a 60fps widescreen release would just highlight the worst parts.

      I’ve hooked up a 2600 to a widescreen before and seeing whats going on outside the 4:3 scanlines can be interesting but it’s not a better experience than on a CRT.

    • Que@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      2 years ago

      Yeah fair enough, I wasn’t really considering ports to new systems when I asked the question. I was thinking more along the lines of, if they remastered something like SMW with more modern graphics or slightly different controls, it wouldn’t hold up to the original masterpiece. But then again flatscreens don’t display games designed for crt screens as well as they were initially intended. Maybe remakes would’ve been a better question!

    • Poggervania@kbin.social
      21·
      2 years ago

      I am always for remasters, especially if they can somehow make it so it can easily be played across all current and future systems. Let people play old retro games and don’t let them get lost to time.

      That being said, remakes and rereleases can go screw themselves. Like I’d much rather have RE4 remastered rather than the RE4 remake because the original is still good. All remakes do is cash in on nostalgia and are probably easy to make because they already have the entire game mapped out - which is probably why they are so popular, but goddammit can we get something new instead of a game released 10+ years ago?

    • gsfraley@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 years ago

      I will say Tetris Effect in VR is a legitimately transcendental experience. I’ve had trips that felt less meaningful and awe-inspiring than that game.

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 years ago

      The Next Tetris actually has some neat mechanics that allow for some crazy gameplay moves. The pieces will fall apart once they come to rest, if the blocks are a different color, and they also merge together if they are the same color. It made for some interesting games

  • LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.chEnglish
    173·
    2 years ago

    No such thing, technology gets better and even games that feel perfect today would be better with newer UI, smoother framerates, or better controls.

    Of course you can say that the original Super Mario Brothers needs to exist still so people could keep working on speed runs, or just cause of the history, but a better SMB with new controls and smoother gameplay should always be on the table.

    • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.comEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      I mean, the original SMB quadrilogy was one of the first remasters ever (they messed up the brick breaking physics in SMB1/LL though, so I prefer the original or a fixed ROM hack of All Stars for those.)

  • Dznts@lemm.ee
    111·
    2 years ago

    Dishonored.

    That game looks beautiful, even if compared to some of today’s AAA titles.

    • hamburglar26@wilbo.tech
      3·
      2 years ago

      System Shock really is a wild example. I played the original even before I could get the enhanced CD version and it has always been an all time fave of mine. How well done and true to the original the remake is while making such a masterpiece accessible to a new audience is just fantastic.

    • Tiptopit@feddit.de
      3·
      2 years ago

      Oh that could be remastered so good. Claim that you implement a 64 player battle royal mode which will never exist and in the end it’s only two player with only pawns + king and you can rent the other figures through microtransactions.

  • trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org
    101·
    2 years ago

    Honestly hard question because essentially you want a game that would be worse now. Something that playing now would tranish it then make it better even with updated graphics/movement. Or something you know the company would take a direction which would make it negative.

    Something like redoing the original Super Mario 1, 2 and 3. Where the updated graphics and changes to game play takes away from the original pixel feel. As I feel Nintendo would probably use modern day Mario design.

    or mass effects removal of zoooming in on mirandas butt

      • tonarinokanasan@lemmy.sdf.org
        1·
        2 years ago

        They were remastered (which I think hurts the original argument), but I as I understand, the question of which is better is pretty divisive

    • Que@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      2 years ago

      Agreed, SMW was actually the first thing that popped into my head when writing the post subject, SMB1-3 definitely qualify too. I’d put them all on equal footing in this regard.

  • AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    102·
    2 years ago

    I just want great ports, like what iD Software has done with Doom and Quake. I don’t care about updated visuals as long as I can play my favorite games in 1080p with modern controls.

    • 520@kbin.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      Ironically, the Doom and Quake versions you can buy now are essentially remakes. The artwork is the same but the backend code is completely redone. Modern official Doom ports now run in Unity.