Well thats’s up yo personal belief more so than anything. We can’t really prove nor disprove deities, so we can’t really argue either side of that debate fully.
There is a huge different between “god doesn’t exist” and “proven there is no need for a god.”
Depending who you ask, there is plenty of evidence. And you don’t even need to ask the Ken Ham’s of the world—there’s literally dedicated fields of study in philosophy arguing this.
The whole “one bad apple spoils the bunch” comes from a series Descartes’ essays trying to figure out if God can be real.
Plus, everyday people have experiences that they interpret as religious events. Coincidence, whatever, that could apply—you can’t, with 100% certainty prove them wrong. You can only assume based off the information you have and your preconceived notions of the world.
Religion is complicated. People’s faith makes it even moreso.
Well I honestly see no reason to try and disprove religions. Some of them do have fucked traditions, yes, but trying to invalidated one’s faith is just sad.
As for the Santa part, I can’t really argue against that. But for my own sake I’m going to keep pretending he’s real, as that’s more comforting that the thought of a crackhead breaking into my house and stealing nothing but cookies.
Financial gain? We’re speaking of religion, not vanity churches. If people want to believe in something above themselves, you have no right to say otherwise just because you yourself believe against it. And the fact you believe all religion is directly tied to money really speaks numbers to how you see things you don’t like.
There would be no religions if there wasn’t churches pushing them. People can believe in the tooth fairy for all i care. Doesn’t make it true or possible.
Me: “There is a big pile of gold buried under my house.”
Real Estate Agent: “That sounds… unlikely?”
Me: “Well thats’s up yo personal belief more so than anything. We can’t really prove nor disprove deities, so we can’t really argue either side of that debate fully.”
this, is a bit sad that it always comes down to this… its really not how logic works we determine if things are possible based on evidence. Not the lack of evidence… you can never prove something that doesnt exist, doesnt…
Logic is used in the court of law and it’s completely reliant on evidence missing to prove innocence.
Hence, “there is zero evidence that the defendant was in the location at the time of the crime which proves their innocence.”
Adding: I mean, the biggest evidence some people have is that something can’t come from nothing. We have no proof of where our something started or came from (for all we know it’s a game of marbles), so their theory is just as valid as anyone else’s until proven otherwise.
Religions/God
Well thats’s up yo personal belief more so than anything. We can’t really prove nor disprove deities, so we can’t really argue either side of that debate fully.
well no, its not an equal position. we have 0 evidence of the existence of a god. we have a lot of evidence that there is no need for a god.
otherwise somebody could claim that santa claus is possible ebcause it wasnt disproven. you cant disprove things that dont exist.
There is a huge different between “god doesn’t exist” and “proven there is no need for a god.”
Depending who you ask, there is plenty of evidence. And you don’t even need to ask the Ken Ham’s of the world—there’s literally dedicated fields of study in philosophy arguing this.
The whole “one bad apple spoils the bunch” comes from a series Descartes’ essays trying to figure out if God can be real.
Plus, everyday people have experiences that they interpret as religious events. Coincidence, whatever, that could apply—you can’t, with 100% certainty prove them wrong. You can only assume based off the information you have and your preconceived notions of the world.
Religion is complicated. People’s faith makes it even moreso.
Evidence don’t change based on “who you ask”.
Well I honestly see no reason to try and disprove religions. Some of them do have fucked traditions, yes, but trying to invalidated one’s faith is just sad.
As for the Santa part, I can’t really argue against that. But for my own sake I’m going to keep pretending he’s real, as that’s more comforting that the thought of a crackhead breaking into my house and stealing nothing but cookies.
i think its sad to want to convince people of things that are not real for financial gain :)
Financial gain? We’re speaking of religion, not vanity churches. If people want to believe in something above themselves, you have no right to say otherwise just because you yourself believe against it. And the fact you believe all religion is directly tied to money really speaks numbers to how you see things you don’t like.
There would be no religions if there wasn’t churches pushing them. People can believe in the tooth fairy for all i care. Doesn’t make it true or possible.
Damn, sounds like somebody was forced to attend Sunday school. My condolences.
I was not. I take it from this empty jab that you do not have any arguments.
Me: “There is a big pile of gold buried under my house.”
Real Estate Agent: “That sounds… unlikely?”
Me: “Well thats’s up yo personal belief more so than anything. We can’t really prove nor disprove deities, so we can’t really argue either side of that debate fully.”
this, is a bit sad that it always comes down to this… its really not how logic works we determine if things are possible based on evidence. Not the lack of evidence… you can never prove something that doesnt exist, doesnt…
Logic is used in the court of law and it’s completely reliant on evidence missing to prove innocence.
Hence, “there is zero evidence that the defendant was in the location at the time of the crime which proves their innocence.”
Adding: I mean, the biggest evidence some people have is that something can’t come from nothing. We have no proof of where our something started or came from (for all we know it’s a game of marbles), so their theory is just as valid as anyone else’s until proven otherwise.