• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        That’s neither here nor there. The Canadian government’s complicity only implicates Canada and clears no one.

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            Just as there are such things as political prisoners, there are such things as political pardons. Judicial my ass; it was political.

            And just as before, whatever the politicians & pundits are raving is neither here nor there. The guy voluntarily joined the Waffen-SS Galicia Division.

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              Yeah he volunteered to to be solider, so what? Being a solider is not the same thing as being a war criminal and the burden of proof still applies. War is messy and it is entirely possible that this division committed atrocities that haven’t been proven but the mere possibility is not sufficient reason to label him a war criminal. You are de-meaning the term by doing so.

              Either you have specific evidence to support your charge or realize you are participating in sensationalism.

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                He didn’t volunteer to join the regular army and be a regular soldier, he volunteered to be a Waffen-SS paramilitary Nazi soldier, which is quite another thing.

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      You are painting an overly simplified picture. Look up Günter Grass if you don’t believe me.

      TLDR: He non forcefully signed up for the SS, although disagreeing with the Nazis. Later he became a nobel prize winning author and member of the famous Group 47. In his publications he tries to get people to think for themselves - not exactly nazi doctrine.

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        Nazi apologia. It doesn’t matter how many books he wrote or how good they were.

        Here’s how I read it: His Nazi past wasn’t discovered until after receiving literary awards, which was embarrassing to the literati, so they tried to whitewash him.

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          Go and actually read about him! He was never proud of being an SS member, but never made a secret about it (hard to do as a POW of the Americans).

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        That smells like heey out of the 750.000 killing psychopaths, there were that one not absolutely bad person so let’s not judge them too hastily.

        SS scum should rot in a damp prison cell for 1.000 years and then another 1.000.

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          Rotting away in a cell isnt harsh enough. Google what the us Soldiers found in Dachau after freeing the Camp. That shit is disgusting.

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          If people only would read history books and actually think about what they read… Instead it seems, most people around here just take their education from inglorious bastards.

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        No.

        We should judge the ones who are left with extreme prejudice and they should desperately be explaining themselves and proving that they actually sabotaged the SS and Nazi empire from within, if they are to regain any humanity.