Hey all, I’ve been taking my digital privacy and security much more seriously this year, but the one thing I’ve been stuck on and feels overwhelming to me is email. So I wanted to know what do you guys use or what practices do you follow? Do you keep a separate email or alias for every single account, or just compartmentalize, like one email address for online shopping, one for business, one personal correspondence, and etc.

What services do you use? Right now I have a free Tutanota and ProtonMail account but haven’t decided which one to pay for, if either. ProtonMail makes me iffy with the amount of controversy and debate that has come out of them in recent years even though it comes with a lot of other nice stuff like cloud storage and a vpn. Tutanota I just dislike the fact I can’t add it to third party mail apps like Thunderbird, but this might not be a deal breaker. I know there are others, so what do you guys use? I don’t need something to protect my emails from the NSA or organizations like that but definitely something more private and secure than gmail. Thanks.

  • biscuitech@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    I’m not aware of the controversies regarding ProtonMail, yet they’re my main email provider. I have one main email for everything, and an alias for public-facing email. ProtonMail has a free service called SimpleLogin that allows you to create on-the-spot email for a specific service (even comes with a browser extension). I don’t have anything else regarding emails, those two services really cover all my bases.

    I’d be interested to know which controversies you’re referring to though?

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      1 year ago

      I’d be interested to know which controversies you’re referring to though?

      Mainly the reports @malloc was referring and other things about them misrepresenting how anonymous their email service actually is. Not that I need a totally anonymous email service or need to hide from the government, it just has given me second thoughts about going for them.

      Are you satisfied with ProtonMail, do you use their other stuff like cloud storage and the VPN? Do you think it’s worth the extra cost? The VPN has also drawn me to them because I need a VPN that supports port forwarding. Thanks.

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        1 year ago

        I think OP is going to have a tough time finding an email provider which won’t comply with court orders

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          1 year ago

          Helm used to be one such service. They hosted the IP address and smtp gateway, but you hosted the actual email server. They had no data to hand over; it was in your home. Unfortunately, their service went offline last year.

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          1 year ago

          There is always the option of setting up your own e-mail server. Have been using “docker mail server” for testing purposes and it’s relatively easy to setup locally.

          Haven’t deployed it to a server yet though.

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            1 year ago

            Cool, have been wanting to setup an email server with docker, but mainly for fun/learning and not really to use as a serious email provider. I’ve heard in most cases it’s more trouble than it’s worth and most of the time your emails won’t even be received by the major providers.

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            1 year ago

            Receiving mail doesn’t usually seem to be that difficult, sending mail tends to be the challenge. So if you only care about receiving mail it may be easier.

            I tried it a few years ago and it was fine until some asshole impersonated my domain and a major spamlist decided to hate my guts. I’m not a professional email admin so updating to the latest and greatest standards wasn’t easy. At least at the time. If you’re okay with bounces and silently undelivered mail it’s probably fine. It’s probably also a lot easier nowadays with scripts and easy how-to guides about how to setup the domain authorization. But my experience really turned me off of the “hey it’s fun to run a mail server” thing. Particularly after Google and others came out with the ability to just use Gmail with your own domain.

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              I tried it a few years ago and it was fine until some asshole impersonated my domain and a major spamlist decided to hate my guts.

              Ah, that sucks. Have been wanting to try hosting my own email at some point but this has got me scared. Will have to do my research beforehand for sure