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    If you’re ever at an anti-LGBTQ march “for the children”, ask these bigots why they aren’t marching against the sexual exploitation of children in local parishes.

    They will stutter on their words, I guarantee. Seeing this strategy in action is hilarious and highly effective!

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      I’ve asked this question several times.

      Name one drag queen who has ever been convicted of grooming and sexually abusing children.

      I said to someone once, "There are branches of several international organizations in town that have a centuries old well documented history of grooming and sexually abusing millions of children worldwide then hiding the abuse and moving the abusers to other locations so that they can continue to groom and sexually abuse children. These are the same organizations that are telling you that drag queens are the problem. Why aren’t you protesting them? "

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        That’s a bold but risky move, I wouldn’t bet the argument on someone having dug up some obscure examples. The set of people in drag has to contain at least one, and using a ‘gotcha’ like that could backfire.

        But you’re right, they do seem exceedingly rare. Like, weirdly rare compared to the general population, even.

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          I’ll give them a list of 1,000 clergy who have been convicted and ask them for the name of another drag queen who had been. They will run out of drag queens long before I run out of thousands of clergy.

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          (pedo drag queens) they do seem exceedingly rare

          This is because interest in expressing one’s fabulousness and interest in abusing kids are radically different things. People become drag queens because they are too fabulous to be contained by a single gender and they have to hold it in with Spanx. People become religious leaders because they are trusted positions of power which can provide an opportunity for them to abuse kids and other vulnerable groups with little risk of consequences.

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      I’d like to see SOGI education advocates more explicitly frame their efforts as anti suicide initiatives.

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          This link is a pdf that autodownloads just in case people don’t want to download some random pdf.

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            This link is a pdf that autodownloads

            You know that’s what links on the web do, right? If you see a link to a cat pic, it’s auto-downloading that pic when you click it.

            If you want to say “This link is a pdf that autodownloads”, you can say “PDF on the web”; it’s faster, just as sound a phrase, and just as complete.

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              Riighhht, because your browser popping an image into temporary cache is the exact same as downloading a pdf into your downloads folder, as long as you ignore the security implications of holding random pdfs in long term storage, bypassing browser security features, and relying solely on your pdf viewer.

              I mean semantically sure, you’re not wrong, but you’re well aware of what I meant and your condescending attitude reaks of someone stuck on the first peak of a Duning-Kruger chart.

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      Yes, but the government is not grooming children in the church, it is for grooming children in the schools, it is trying to force the grooming of children in the schools.

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        Letting the kids be who they are, and letting them know that certain minorities exist is not grooming them.

        However, acting like parents own their kids is.

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          Bigots really want to pretend that some teenager discovering that they are gay or trans is a result of some massive conspiracy rather than, you know, they just being gay or trans.

          They call it “grooming” when LGBT people simple exist in society where people might notice them, and they want to make such a scandal that people don’t even think what is the opposite of that which they want.

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            Also teens are learning who it is they are and are going to try out all kinds of identities and activities til they find ones that fit. For some that includes their sexuality. No one is forcing kids to try being gay or trans, just not judging them for the curiosity. Some of those kids will find out that they are more comfortable that way, some will find out it is not really for them. C’est la vie.

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        Seek medical help I think you’re having a stroke with that comment.

        Unless there is a missing /s there somewhere.

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        Oh cool someone else who has no idea what they’re talking about! I’m in the education industry and work closely with 7 schools in my local district. No one is grooming or indoctrinating children, those are conservative buzz words. They’re simply teaching the kids that if they don’t feel like they fit the gender norms that it’s okay.

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    The Vancouver protest did well, outnumbering the assfaces by quite a bit. Multiples, maybe 5:1. Hard to tell.

    Their talking points were incoherent and inconsistent. One person will tell you that they only care about teaching children and have nothing against trans people, and the next person will start screaming THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS.

    Their chant game was absolute shit, they clearly hadn’t workshopped for cadence or pithiness.

    Lots of American politics mixed in, lots of attempts to shame the crowd about “free speech”, they got a couple kids up to scream at the crowd.

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      Because there is literally no credible argument against teaching children about being tolerant towards gay and trans kid, other than hate on LGBTQIA+.

      Hopefully with kids learning tolerance from an early age, they wont grow to be intolerant idiots like their parents

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        I do hate on LGBTQIA+. It sucks! The acronym is too damn long, and a pain to type out. Can’t it be something easy to say and type? Like WIE - We Include Everybody, PAB - People Against Biggots, NBE - Non Binary Equality, or something like that.

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          There’s even more letters now:

          • 2S, because one letter isn’t grand enough
          • at the front, because anything else would be called racist.

          I call them Alphabet rights, because I know I’m going to miss one, and thankfully my more-involved friends show me the charity of teasing me for that only a bit.

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            Why would anyone tease you for that? Unless you’re a member of the community, why would anyone expect you to keep up to date?

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              Because generally speaking, friends tease each other over mild, inconsequential things. You can tease each other over serious things, but you run a greater risk of your friend not finding it funny.

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          You are spreading lies. I hope it’s unintentional.

          Minors are not getting gender surgery and the few that get access to anything hormonal are not offered anything irreversible.

          Equating “story time” with adult burlesque is just simple bigotry. Someone dressing up as a princess to read a story to kids isn’t burlesque, regardless of their gender.

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              How do you know story time is lead by burlesque performers? And how would you know if a woman in the library reading to kids is not also a night performer? You are the one making that connection. Gender and gendered clothing are not sex. The reason they are making a big deal out drag story time is to associate cross-dressing with sexual performance (i.e., inappropriate for kids). Why, you ask? So that the mere existence of trans women in our communities can be considered inappropriate.

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            So delaying or stopping puberty, for how long? your body will turn out exactly like if you had not delayed/stopped hormones?

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              Well, I’m no medical professional, but medical professionals have been prescribing puberty blockers for other things for decades, and if they were as dangerous as all that, then you’d think the FDA would have banned that by now.

              Besides which, access to treatments like those ones are documented to reduce rates of self-harm, including suicide, among kids with gender dysphoria. And if your metric is the body turning out like it would have without these treatments, well, I hope I don’t need to fill in the blank for you.

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              We live in an age where we have countless information at our fingertips. Google scholar is literally a browser click away. If they don’t like social media answers from individuals because they’re too rude then they should do their own research, on their own time, instead of complaining about the quality of free labor from a minority group that is constantly forced to justify their existence ALL the time. 🤷‍♂️

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                That’s not fair to OP. He didn’t complain about the answers anywhere. I’m just suggesting to folks here that maybe you’d reach more people if you didn’t imply that anyone who asks a question is either stupid or malicious.

                It doesn’t seem too crazy to me to say that someone should be able to enter a conversation and say they don’t know something without being attacked.

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                  OK now I now you’re trolling. Where did I attack the person I was responding to? This is just manufactured drama, how very reddit of you.

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          The whole point is to give educated information to children/teenagers. If one goes to the counselor and tells that they think they might be trans, the school will give proper information about it.

          People act as if drugs are being given in lunch time to the kids.

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                No, they aren’t. They can not stop people from making or purchasing those books.

                They’re removing them from state funded programs but that’s a much different thing.

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                  Ohh, yes they are. Go look it up and actually research it honestly instead of looking for holes to win an argument. It’s happening here, especially in certain southern states, and it’s bad. Some counties even shut down whole libraries specifically to get around anti-censorship protections we have here.

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      The Vancouver protest did well, outnumbering the assfaces by quite a bit. Multiples, maybe 5:1. Hard to tell.

      Good to hear

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    The protest in Nanaimo today saw a larger attendance by the Pro-SOGI side. We had better flags and banners. We took the high ground with our numbers.

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      Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI), for those not familiar with the term.

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      That said, the rainbow flag crowd far outnumbered the dogwhistling “parents rights” crowd in Winnipeg today. And I’m hearing similar in many other cities.

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        I’m so happy to see this acronym catching on. I think it’s much more inclusive. I actually recall suggesting it to someone like 5 years ago, although I think it should technically be SOGIM with the M standing for minorities. So if you’re talking about taking to school kids about crushes, or what they feel it means to be a boy, that’s SOGI education (inclusive of cis het) while members of the lgbtqia2s+ community would be SOGIM.

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        Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI)

        Thanks for the de-reference on the jargon. I’m not in a spot where I use an initialism like that enough to retain it.

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        That’s good to hear. I was out for a walk at lunch and went past the Legislature. From my vantage I could only make out the nutters, which was depressing. I didn’t have time to really investigate.

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      This is a weird way to say it, but if I understand correctly a win for tolerance and acceptance, in which case I salute you!

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    Bigots are always a small group with outsized volume. Just like mal-adjusted chihuahuas. And like chihuahuas suffering ‘little dog syndrome’, when they try to bite, they can be punted across the room with prejudice.

    (Note that I do not condone kicking small, obnoxious dogs. That was a joke. I do condone kicking fascists, however.)

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      This is a weird claim. Being bigoted has clearly been the majority opinion for almost all of human history. That’s why it has been a problem, because they have had serious power and they have used it.

      Bigots being in the minority would mean that the problem has largely gone away.

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    Never heard of this site, and thought some of the details were a little weird, but then totally realized the satire by the time I got to “first ammendment rights as a Canadian”

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      I love how these articles are written.

      They all start off really subtle, but get less so as you keep reading.

      By the end of the article everyone should have realised, at some point, the satire.

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      Same. What tipped me off was when one of the supposed leaders of the Million March’s original name was the “Million March for Why Won’t Queer People All Go Away.” Hilarious.

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    I am offended. My brain kept going BOINK by reading LGTBQ while expecting LGBTQ.

    Fuck you, whoever wrote that title.

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    Saw a bunch of these “peaceful” conservatives ripping pride flags from peoples hands. Especially that one nasty old witch ripping it out of a dudes lap from behind him, when he was sitting by himself on a wall.

    Never saw the same from the other side.

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    I really love the little touch of the march leaving peewee hockey games unscreamed at.

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      No, why? AFAIK there is no rule against satire in !canada