• Squizzy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      1 year ago

      Standards have improved 10 fold, I moved from a house built 70 years ago to a new build. It is completely different, air tight, less moisture, more efficient heating, permanent hot water, triple glazed windows. Literally everything is more secure and improved. There is nothing an old house can do a new one can’t.

        • Squizzy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Heating is an accessory? The new tech associated with central heating compared to 50 years ago is night and day. The building materials have changed, the regulations have changed. Houses have better insulation, soundproofing, fire guarding, plumbing, electrical circuitry like how is this even a discussion.

            • Squizzy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Oh we don’t have timber framed housing here, my house is concrete and the 50 year old house I was in, probably closer 100, was a stone cottage.

              The new house has exactly those things you listed. I’m fairly certain they have to be in all new builds where I am. Though the solar is optional, we have a heat pump instead.

            • Squizzy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              That’s a load of nonsense, experienced builder or not. Heating is part of building a house just like the other plumbing, electrical and joinery work.

                • Squizzy@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  I’m very happy for you in your made up home, but central heating and plumbing and requirements for construction where I live.

                  It is definitely more a part of the house than an appliance in that it is built into the house during it’s construction by the builders. Ranges are not the same as indoor plumbing, are you sure you’re a builder? You can add and remove walls after the fact too but it doesn’t make them an accessory in the sense that you are trying to claim.

      • uis@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        air tight, less moisture, more efficient heating, permanent hot water, triple glazed windows.

        And why “I moved from unmaintained house” is argument against old housing? I have all those things in 50 years old house.

        • Squizzy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          So you gave your old building a retrofit with new technologies… more in line with today’s standards and have seen results more in line with today’s standards.

          What is your argument here?

          • uis@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            So you gave your old building a retrofit with new technologies… more in line with today’s standards and have seen results more in line with today’s standards.

            So you understand this!

            • Squizzy@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              So modern building standards, materials, technologies and completed products are better than old?

              I don’t see many people taking out the cavity insulation to make their homes more old style.

              • irmoz@reddthat.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Your argument only defeats theirs if their argument was “old buildings are perfect and will never benefit from renovation”

                But they didn’t say that, did they?

                • Squizzy@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Not in so many words but they did say “When these bad boys are maintained they can outperform new apartments”

                  I didn’t argue against them being capable of improvement, I’m arguing against the idea that they can outperform newer type buildings.