Woke up to my computer being updated to W11 from W10, not too happy about that. I want to use massgrave to change my window to W10 LTSC.
I am not interested in Linux.
So, I went to massgrave.dev and did the script, hit 1, etc. It just say something about permanent changed to key or whatever.
So I went download W10 LTSC iso, hit setup.exe and it asked me for product key. I entered my key, say it’s not right one.
So could somebody run me step by step how to go about it? I’m not really tech savvy. I want literal step by step, telling me exactly what to do.
Thank you.
Edit: folks didn’t really provide step by step here. But I managed to do it. I activiated script via powershell and hit change edition, changed it to LTSC. And then I downloaded window 10 consumer version from massgrave and run setup.exe and done. You might have to do first step shown in first part of massgrave.dev.
So my pc went from w10 to w11 (woyhouy my approval) to w11 LTSC, to w10 IoT enterprise. I’m good now.
To add to what everyone’s saying since it hasn’t been mentioned (as far as I’ve seen): You can probably disable TPM 2.0 in your BIOS once you re-install Windows 10 so Windows Update will think your PC is incompatible with Windows 11.
I dunno what the security implications are but it’s been working really well for me so far.
I am not interested in Linux.
Open BSD then?.. Ahahha
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You are on Lemmy, which shows that you weren’t deterred from learning about all the instances and stuff. So you are open to learning. So I would slowly dip my toes into Linux if there’s no Windows specific software you absolutely depend on.
I would suggest Linux Mint: https://www.linuxmint.com/
This is beginner friendly and for the most part can be operated pretty much like Windows. Slowly, you will get used to typing in commands into the terminal to maybe update and upgrade your system. Online instructions to install programs are widly available to find (install [program] on ubuntu/debian) can be easy since it’s based off of ubuntu/debian
Now, if you really want to use windows for whatever reason, everything is already on the massgrave website for you to read and install.
https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media
Linux will show you how to troubleshoot and use your computer more efficiently and not spy on you.
Windows will simultaneously spy on you and still shit itself so you’ll still have to learn to troubleshoot. Give it a few years, and Windows will enshitify further. You’re just delaying the inevitable.
I’m pretty sure your supposed to set up W10 first (press “I don’t have a product key”) and then run the script after it puts you in
You have to install Windows LTSC fresh then run massgrave. Product keys for the versions of Windows are different
You can’t really downgrade Windows.
If you’ve downloaded Windows 10 LTSC from massgrave, then you need to burn it to a CD (lol) or put it on a USB drive and completely re-install Windows.
Then when you’ve setup windows, execute the massgrave script to activate windows permanently. Then, while you’re at it, you can grab Privatezilla which allows you to completely disable forced windows updates so this won’t happen to you again.
He should be able to revert for some time, but the way to do that should be easy to google. If this isn’t trolling?
It’s not possible to in place downgrade from Windows 11 to Windows 10 without significant issues.
While it’s technically possible by the broadest definition of available Microsoft offers no guarantee or support for it as a feature. I’ve personally tried it several times and never had it be successful.
I cannot possibly discourage you enough from attempting it.
https://rentry.co/MR-EverythingWindowsExplained#installing-windows has further info, but tl;dr- install without a key, then use MASgrave after it’s installed.
You need to wipe your drive and reinstall windows in order to switch to the ltsc branch.
This said, are you aware that windows 10 dies in October and any security issues (~50 discovered every month, although not all very serious) won’t get patched anymore?
Better get used now to w11 or Linux rather than next year after automatically getting a ransomware and losing all your data after visiting a dodgy site
I thought LTSC have 10 years support?
LTSC IOT does
Just FYI. Microsoft Windows IoT is Microsoft Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing. Saying “IOT does” as if they’re not the same thing is incorrect.
There’s LTSC and LTSC IOT. And they’re both Enterprise. The difference is 5 years support and 10 years support.
Only if you install w10 1809 that was released in 2018. It is ancient and missing so many features that’s almost using another operating system. But at least will get security updates until 2028
Otherwise they altered the deal, latest ltsc was released in 2021 with only 5 years of security updates
On the Enterprise channel, it does. Until 2032, IIRC. So you’ll need either Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC, or Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.
2032 is only for iot version that’s designed for ATM and similar appliances, missing too many features to be considered a good alternative
what features does it miss? it is perfectly capable of running firefox, steamd and games, and whatever else.
it does not have that crap microsoft store, that’s it. but if you really need it, you can install it and then it’s there.I never personally used it but there are a lot of posts of people complaining that something is broken because the software is assuming to run on latest and greatest windows 10, especially games and anticheat. There’s also a post on Reddit of someone complaining “it doesn’t have Windows spotlight, how can I enable it” (the sponsored link ads on the lock screen) but that’s a pro, not a con…
maybe this would fix spotlight: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/windows-itpro-docs/blob/public/windows/configuration/windows-spotlight/index.md
feature wise I believe the latest iot ltsc edition is based on the last version of windows 10
- IoT was not designed at all for ATMs. Windows IoT, also known as Windows embedded was designed for low power, embedded systems which in exactly zero ways describes ATMs. The banking industry has decided to use this version of Windows because it comes with the features they need with the longest support channel. That’s it. IoT was not designed for ATMs.
- Windows IoT is Windows Enterprise. They are the same thing:
Windows IoT Enterprise is a full version of Windows Enterprise that delivers enterprise manageability and security to IoT solutions. 1
Windows Enterprise (including Windows IoT) LTSC ends mainstream support Jan 12, 2027, and security updates will continue until 2032.
I’ve read somewhere that Microsoft will be charging for extended windows 10 support. And I’ve also read that somebody is planning a project to be able to download the windows 10 extended support patches without Microsoft. Can’t remember where I read it
Remember when Microsoft said Win10 would be the last windows? That would have been cool.
Yeah it would have. Microsoft sucks 😆
