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He did say he would be bringing prices down on day 1, just didn’t clarify he meant stock prices, not grocery prices.
As of 1:00 PM EST, it’s down 12% on the day and dropping 🥰
As of 3:00 PM EST, it’s down over 15% on the day and in a bit of a further swing 😍
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You love to see it.
I love it.
My 401k lol
Moved mine to 100% international allocations on the 4th, up like 3% since then, highly recommend
Shit, great idea… I should’ve realized that sooner.
Yup. Ouch.
Buyeu and buycanada are gaining momentum?
I agree with the sentiment but I work in IT and yearn for when we will get rid of Microsoft, Amazon, and the tech giants.
My mother won’t buy anything American at the grocery store but uses Amazon and Facebook every day.
My coworkers won’t buy American products but use Windows, Teams, and Office every day.
I may be using Linux, open source software, and avoid American tech when possible, but I still use Google and Gmail.
At some point we may want to (or should) also extend that boycott to software and tech services. Have our governments, institutions and people not dependent on American corporations. It can only be good for our sovereignty anyway.
I asked in another thread about the possibility and likelihood of a sort of “digital embargo” where the states would order American companies like steam to halt service.
Forget not being able to get oranges or having to eat frozen veggies part of the year, this is somewhere that I can’t really change my buying habits and move on (my steam library can’t leave steam in this example)
I know nothing the stock market does is ever good for actual people, and any direction the line goes will be used as an excuse to commit atrocities against the poor, but I do feel a little thrill seeing it go down as the contrivances of ‘wealth’ used to gaslight us into not taking the full value of our labor at least superficially collapse.
Ok just to clarify your first point: 60% of Americans have either a 401k or Roth IRA. The stock market is not the be all and end all economic factor but it does affect a large swath of Americans.
they ‘have one’, I have had friends who found out an employer created one for them with pitiful amounts of money in them, or they got paid partially in them. nobody I know genuinely believes they’re going to retire. very few people I know believe in a far-future. not far as in ‘i read the foundation novels and damn, that shit blew my mind because im the most basic bitch possible’ i mean ‘far future’ as in ‘I might die older than my grandparents’
that’s not to disregard what you’re saying completely, of course. it will fuck a lot of people up. im sure. but line-go-up hurts just as many, if not more, people.
Then your friends and people you know are morons. If your place of work provides a 401k or 403b, you can talk with an advisor for free to decide how you want to invest and how much. There is pitiful amounts of money in them because they didn’t add anything beyond the minimum and whatever their employer is matching. It’s also a good way to lower your tax burden at year end.
If your employer doesn’t have 401k or 403b, it’s even more important to have a Roth IRA. You can’t put as much into it each year and it’s post tax dollars, but it’s better than thinking you’ll ever get social security in 20-40 years.
401k is a scam that was used to help kill pensions. The only reason to use one if your job locks part of your pay behind matching some of your contributions.
Even the tax savings is a lie. It’s just a deferment and you pay the full income tax rate on it when you are eventually forced to withdrawal it. Even on the gains if you’re lucky enough to be up when you need it.
It also systematically intentionally forces the most vulnerable to be entirely dependent and aligned on capitalism
Yes. You eventually pay the taxes on it. However, there is this thing you’ve never heard of called “Marginal Tax Brackets” This makes it so that when I do eventually pay the taxes on it, I’m not paying at the income level of when I was employed and instead much lower when I’m retired.
Pensions are better, but calling a 401k a scam just makes you look stupid.
If you have enough in it to live comfortably, it’s not better than rolling your own and paying at the capital gains rate. To actually save you better really like tuna fish sandwiches.
I would suggest you learn a little more about how Capital gains tax rates, both short-term and long-term, are impacted on a 1099 form, before talking about tax breaks, tax brackets, or investments. Please do not give anyone advice. You are not a financial advisor and the advice you are giving, would ensure no one has a life or savings before or even after retirement.
lol, thinking you’ll be alive in 20-40 years. should I throw salt over my shoulder in case there are fairys there? offer up sacrifices tot he gods? stay off ships named after greek goddesses of agriculture, or just stuff from greek myth in general?
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You can allocate your funds to international investments only
Don’t forget 529s…
The FO phase of FAFO.
All I see here is a bunch of companies that were massively over valued in the first place.
I sleep.
One can hope for it to be Consequences of their actions.
They are still saying it is “normalizing”.
Yeah, right.
“Normalizing” = we dgaf what happens to everyone’s finances because we’re completely insulated from the effects.
I’m yelling timber!
You better move. You better dance.
Big Tech always amplifies gyrations in the market. Hence, every single one of these stocks (except Microsoft, I just checked) is still beating the S&P 500 over 6 months, even with these drops. And Microsoft is still way up in the long term.
Look, I want meteors to hit them all, but huge swings are the norm for these now. Hotter stocks trade a lot like crypto these days.
Hotter stocks trade a lot like crypto these days.
Hum… That’s not a good sign.
Instead, that’s a really strong indication that people believe those stocks have the same kind of fundamentals than crypto.
Tech stocks are overvalued right now because they’re all inflated by AI hype. When that hype finally collapses the crash is going to be nasty.
It’s more an implicit acknowledgment that it’s all a game. Kind of like crypto, roulette, or poker.
Hotter stocks trade a lot like crypto these days.
It’s all the same casino.
In the long run other countries are going to pivot away from American companies and likely ban facebook, x, etc.
It’s stocks, innit?
There goes my savings
Rodrigo Duterte
Line goes down, arrows go up.
