The Beehaw project is entering some significant challenges - Beehaw
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There is a lot of discussion happening in the background of our project here. We could not anticipate all of the challenges that we were going to face a few years ago. One of the reasons for this was because we had no idea what our choice of a platform would bring. Specifically, we chose Lemmy as the software that we would use to launch our endeavor to attempt a safe space for marginalized persons online. In the first year or so, this choice was completely successful for a very small number of users. And then we all experienced an enormous influx of users when Reddit announced/implemented their shutting down of third party apps. Since then there has been a huge number of people that have joined the Beehaw project. This tsunami of users initiated technical problems, and otherwise, that we could not foresee. Thankfully and fortunately, we have had a couple of incredibly knowledgeable persons that have swooped in to ’save the day’ and keep this site running. Unfortunately, these persons will NOT be able to continue to support the Beehaw project much further. They have life commitments and other factors, including careers and family life, that will prevent them from contributing to our project in an ongoing fashion. All that being said, Lemmy (the software that Beehaw runs on) development is incredibly slow and is riddled with problems that makes administration/moderation very painful. Therefore, we are left with some options that may feel uncomfortable to us. For example, we may want to consider leaving the Fediverse for another software platform that does NOT include ActivityPub. To explain, Fediverse/ActivityPub are very positive concepts on the foundational level. However, the Beehaw project is struggling to include this because most of our moderation/content/ethos is being jeopardized from OTHER federated instances (i.e. it, mostly, is NOT coming from within our own Beehaw registered user base). The aforementioned persons, that have ’swooped in to save the day’, have been discussing/working with us to come up with the best solutions that would enable the Beehaw project to continue while NOT needing incredibly experienced/technically adept persons around. Right now, we are testing alternative software platforms and evaluating them based on everything that we want Beehaw to become in the future. Thank you all for your continued support of the Beehaw project and entrusting us to make this happen.
  • aksdb@feddit.deEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Can someone ELI5 what Beehaw is? Their post says that the lemmy instance is just part of a large project, but the beehaw website is the lemmy instance. So what is this project? What makes them special? Google also just shows me their lemmy instance and their subreddit.

    • BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social
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      10 months ago

      Beehaw is trying to be a “safe place” social network. They want to be a social network, welcoming to people, but also protect their community. They want people to be nice, and won’t tolerate people being intolerant (racism, homophonic, sexist, transphobic, or bigoted).

      I’d argue that In a lot of these things their can be some nuance in all those terms but in Beehaw expect a more absolutionist interpretation of those terms.

      I understand what they’re trying to do. But to give you an idea of what the result is (in my opinion) - when I mentioned free speech there I was lectured that the term is a right wing dog whistle term. I would describe them as a intolerantly tolerant place - either you ascribe to their absolutionist views or you don’t. That is just my experience though.

      Beehaws influence has been disproportionate as they were one of the bigger communities during the recent Reddit influxes. They don’t want to be the biggest, they want to protect and nurture their own community. I get it but I think it was inevitable that would not work with federating.

        • shrugal@lemm.eeEnglish
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          10 months ago

          The thing about free speech is that it matters most when you don’t agree with the other person.

            • shrugal@lemm.eeEnglish
              33·
              10 months ago

              That those kinds of situations are exactly why free speech exists: People want to articulate thoughts in front of an audience that is opposed to them. What they are saying may be bad (depending on your PoV), but the fact that they can invoke free speech to say it is important (excl. harmful stuff like hate speech ofc).

              Claiming to support free speech when nothing controversial is being said is just cheap talk.

    • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1317·
      10 months ago

      it’s a toxic echo chamber that claims to be a “safe space”, in which you either contribute to the(ir) echo, or you get banned

        • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          102·
          10 months ago

          I once got told that if I even tried to defend or discuss my point of view (after the first and only comment on that thread), I’ll be banned. Because I said that if you randomly pick out someone from a random population, you’re less likely to pick a minority, because they’re a minority. And that’s how statistics works.

            • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              4·
              10 months ago

              The point was about proportional representation in media. The key word there was proportional.

              If I picked all my actors by picking names out of a hat (meaning it’s impossible to discriminate), there is a high chance that there won’t be a lot of asians in my result. But that’s not because I have anything against asians, but simply because I live in a mediterranean country, and there are far fewer asians here than you’d find in asia. So even if I ended up with 19 mediterranean people, and one asian person, that’d be a proportional representation.

              But I was the aggressor for not agreeing that “biasing the results but only if you personally don’t like them” is good proportional representation.

              And calling me the aggressor for stating an objective, undisputable mathematical fact in a relevant discussion is exactly why it’s a toxic echo chamber. The truth there is decided by majority. Not by the real world.