Luis Chamberlain sent out the modules changes today for the Linux 6.6 merge window. Most notable with the modules update is a change that better builds up the defenses against NVIDIA’s proprietary kernel driver from using GPL-only symbols. Or in other words, bits that only true open-source drivers should be utilizing and not proprietary kernel drivers like NVIDIA’s default Linux driver in respecting the original kernel code author’s intent.

Back in 2020 when the original defense was added, NVIDIA recommended avoiding the Linux 5.9 for the time being. They ended up having a supported driver several weeks later. It will be interesting to see this time how long Linux 6.6+ thwarts their kernel driver.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    I assume nVidia have licensed other code that they don’t have the rights to distribute the source code for.

    I get what the GPL fans want here, but it’s just going to lead to a gimped driver, no driver, or an even larger shim between the open and closed source bits. The Linux market is too small for nVidia to care.

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      1 year ago

      All ml, ai, hpc is done on Linux. They are getting a lot of money because of the hype.

      They need Linux drivers. No way hpc can be done on windows. But it can be done on amd

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        1 year ago

        They don’t have to offer Linux drivers for free to the general public though. Ask yourself why they do that.

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          1 year ago

          The problem is not mine. Is theirs. They want to use functionality written by others with certain requirements (i.e. that using that code requires disclosing the source code).

          If they are not happy with that, that’s fine. They shouldn’t use those functionalities.

          Problem is that they depends on Linux kernel for their biggest business (data centers). If they don’t support linux, market will shift to amd. As ML user, I am absolutely fine. I can use amd for our gpu cluster. I absolutely cannot use a non linux OS.

          That’s their problem, not linux maintainers’ problem

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      1 year ago

      With GPUs being used for AI stuff and all sane people using Linux for servers, no, Linux market isn’t small at all for Nvidia.

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      That’s all I see happening too. The Nvidia Linux drivers will just get worse and not solve anything.

      It’s already a huge pain in the ass to use the proprietary drivers, the open source ones barely work as is.

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      1 year ago

      The Linux market is too small for nVidia to care

      I’ll fix it for you: “The Linux gaming market”

      Linux AI market is their bread, butter and red caviar. Shim itself is enough proof they care.