In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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    15 hours ago

    I understand the sentiment, but this is intrinsically self-defeating if at most one half of the female population participates while the other half if quickly drifting towards the trad-wife high birth rate shit.

    It is just math.

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      1 hour ago

      Did you actually think half of the female pop wants to be a trad wife? Only 37% of young adult women voted for Trump for instance. 76% of 25-54 year old women work. 88% of women believe abortion should be legal. Trad wives are an internet meme that has single digit support among young women.

      https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm

      https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.aspx

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        35 minutes ago

        If I had thought that, using the words “quickly drifting towards” would have really made no sense. But I still see them in my original comment.

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        Think about it long term though. If trad wives have lots of children and all other women don’t, the next generation will be over-represented by the children of trad wives. Over a long enough time scale I think trad wife like subcultures will take over.

        Think about it in evolutionary terms. If a mutation shows up that dramatically lowers fertility rate it will be heavily selected against unless it somehow confers an even greater fitness advantage in other areas.

        Here we’re dealing with cultural changes associated with the invention of birth control and a massive liberalization of society. These have caused fertility to plummet but don’t really confer much of a fitness advantage (most of the advantage is due to modern medicine which trad wives also have access to). Since culture is pretty strongly heritable (sometimes even more strongly than individual genes, which might only be passed down 50% of the time if only one parent has the gene) we could see a societal takeover by trad wives over the next few centuries.

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      12 hours ago

      I don’t expect this to go anywhere, but wouldn’t limiting the dating pool create a more competitive market for men?

      If that is a good thing, that I don’t know

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        10 hours ago

        We are in the middle of a loneliness epidemic. For both women and men. Denying themselves companionship and love will only make people more miserable.

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            44 minutes ago

            Re-read what I said. I’m not forcing anyone to stay in my company. Hell, I even qualify that there are some people who don’t mind being alone.

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            9 hours ago

            It’s not just the US. It’s mostly everywhere. It’s a byproduct of the internet existing and so many people being addicted to it. It’s a byproduct of people overworking themselves, working shit hours / nights so they cannot interact in a healthy way - without being literal zombies. It’s a problem with the mental health crisis too - with the loneliness epidemic fueling it, and the mental health crisis fueling the loneliness epidemic. More people are scared of dating and getting hurt. More people are scared of commitment. People go nuts locked up alone in tiny boxes they call a home, don’t know how to get out and don’t want to risk inviting someone in. People got comfortable with how things are going for them, even if it’s going completely shit. Then there are the dating app companies, whose entire gimmick is to get you hooked onto a monthly subscription. Which, aside from someone who is looking to hook up only, is about as counter to what they should be as possible.