Puerto Rico’s largest newspaper

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    2 hours ago

    Wait, I thought Puerto Rico residents cannot vote in the presidential elections. Even Wikipedia seems to think so.

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      Puerto Rico has no electoral votes. But everyone born in Puerto Rico is a US Citizen.

      Meaning Puerto Ricans who are currently living stateside (ex: studying at a university and staying enough months of the year to qualify for residency) can vote.


      Similarly, a… Californian… who is living in Puerto Rico has no electoral votes. Because USA assigns votes by land.

      Every Puerto Rican is a USA citizen who has the right to vote. As long as they’re living in the correct area (ie: inside the 50 fully accepted states).

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      Not to sound like an asshole and not calling you out specifically, but I find it incredibly ridiculous and frustrating that Americans are so confused and ignorant about Puerto Rico.

      Edit: thanks RapidCreek for proving my point so well.

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        I wouldn’t find it too ridiculous. After all, most people in the US haven’t traveled outside it’s borders and the concept of other countries is just not something they encounter.

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            Yes, in fact it is outside US borders. It’s not a US state. It’s a protectorate, like the US Virgin Islands, and has its own government

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              True, but you don’t need a passport to go there. To your average American it’s as much outside the US as Hawaii.

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                Interesting subject. The US has many agreements with separate countries on travel. But, if you are traveling to another Caribbean island, and go through San Jaun for a connecting flight, you will be asked for your passport there as well as in Miami, or other US end point. Why? Because Puerto Rico has its own passport control, not US. Same is true of Canada, BTW.

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                  All states have their own passport control for international travelers.

                  I’ve been to Puerto Rico several times, and I’ve never used a passport to go there or come back.

                  -U.S. citizens do not need a passport to travel between the U.S. and these territories: -Guam -Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands -Puerto Rico -U.S. Virgin Islands

                  https://www.usa.gov/visit-territories

            • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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              It’s a separate country.

              The Supreme Court of the United States of America would disagree with you.

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              All states and territories have their own local government. They still operate under the US federal government. Your stubborn ignorance doesn’t make Puerto Rico another country.

              Puerto Ricans are United States citizens, they use United States dollar as a currency, they pay United States taxes, and they have a representative in Congress.

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                It’s not a state. It’s not a territory. To be so, it would need congressional approval. It is a separate country of US citizens. And not the only one. Sorry, if this reality doesn’t conform with your imagination

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      I’m going to jump in and defend this comment because it is technically correct. If you reside in Puerto Rico, you cannot vote. If you were born and raised in California, or Kentucky, or any other state and you move to Puerto Rico, you lose your right to vote. If you were born and raised in Puerto Rico but move to any of the fifty states, you can vote. Yes, it is stupid. All US citizens should have the right to vote, regardless of where they reside.

      Many Puerto Ricans who move out of the island tend to keep up with the goings on by streaming radio stations and reading online version of the newspaper like El Nuevo Dia. El Nuevo Dia is literally telling Puerto Ricans and people.of Puerto Rican decent that it is their duty to vote for Harris. This reads more like a mandate than an endorsement.

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        If expat yanks living in Paris or Moosejaw can vote by mail, why can’t yanks living in PR?

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          I had no idea about this. I have friends who lived in Europe their entire life who can vote in this election - but if you’re born and raised in Texas but move to PR you lose your right to vote?

          Puerto Rico has more people living in it than both the Dakotas, Montana, and Wyoming combined. It would have been the 30th biggest state.

          An it’s being treated like absolute shit, with Americans in this very thread not understanding that they’re even part of the US.

          At last if Trump wins the election they will be able to just leave this sinking shipwreck of a country, and the idiots in charge won’t even know they were ever part of the US.

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          I think it’s important to clarify the difference between “living in” and “residing”. If you live in Paris, France but your US residence is still listed as Paris, Texas, you can vote. If you live in Paris, France but your US residence is listed as San Juan, Puerto Rico, you cannot vote.

          Here is the kicker. If you live in Puerto Rico but you are still listed as residing in California, you can vote via mail. It is moronic.

          EDIT: Your place of residence is normally what is on your drivers license, voter registration and tax returns.

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      OK. So, you are a US citizen. So if you are a part of the 51/2 million Puerto Ricans that live in the US - YES you can and do vote in the state you reside. But, on the other hand, if you are part of the 31/2 million on the island - NO, you can not.