• aeternum@kbin.social
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      what humans use PAILS in comparisson to what the animals we eat use. Stop eating animals!

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        I can understand why you’re getting downvoted. People don’t want to stop eating animals. I know I don’t. But we really should. You’re right, it’s horrible for the planet. I for one am looking forward to the lab grown meat future.

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          Why even lab grown? I’ve eaten burgers from vegan shops that I prefer to meat ones. They’re meatier and tastier than every other meat based burger in their price range.

          Of course not every restaurant is this good yet but I have a feeling it’ll outpace the rate of lab grown meat availability.

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            Why even lab grown? Because people will not give up meat. Humans want fat and muscle protein without the cruelty and waste.
            I’m all for vegan options as well. I love me a well made vegan burger.

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        animals mostly eat parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat, so in that way they help us conserve resources.

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          Haha what the hell are you talking about, a third of cropland is literally dedicated to growing livestock feed. Livestock also directly contributes 7% of greenhouse gas emissions by shitting alone.

          This is directly from the FAO: https://www.fao.org/3/ar591e/ar591e.pdf

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            a third of cropland is literally dedicated to growing livestock feed

            that’s not what your source says. and all of agriculture is about 20% of our emissions, but i’d be fine if it were 100%: we need to eat.

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              Twenty-six percent of the Planet’s ice-free land is used for livestock grazing and 33 percent of croplands are used for livestock feed production.

              Dude, it’s one of the first things written on the first page. Come on now, this is embarassing.

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                  Jesus Christ, so close, read ten more words. Do you think you can do that buddy?

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                33 percent of croplands are used for livestock feed production.

                but not exclusively for livestock feed production. it’s not “dedicated”.

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                  This is what this user posted and embarrassingly deleted before writing the comment above:

                  grazing lands aren’t croplands

                  If you can’t even be bothered to read a full quote that was handed to you, you aren’t discussing in good faith. You can go ahead and fuck off with your hand wavy non-scientific bullshit. Learn to read a source and provide a proper rebuttal with evidence instead of spamming nonsense.

                  Edit: Oh look I broke the spambot lol

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                    this is clearly a bad-faith attempt to avoid the fact that im right: in feeding animals the unwanted parts of our crops, animals actually help conserve water.

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                    Learn to read a source and provide a proper rebuttal with evidence instead of spamming nonsense.

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          I feel like this is overlooked, that animals eat stuff we can’t/won’t- like grass or discarded food.

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          I’m not a vegan, but I respect the hell out of them a lot more than people like you. It isn’t a debate that our level of meat consumption is problematic for the environment, if you deny that and aren’t taking steps to at least try to reduce your meat consumption you are a climate denialist.