• Vincent@feddit.nl
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    1 day ago

    …and we don’t know whether they’re the former or the latter, no? So maybe a little early to get outraged?

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      6 hours ago

      Would you say that Linux contributors with ties to MIT and other US universities that get funding from the same organizations of the MIC and intelligence racket are suspect? No? Yeah just Russians. Cold War propaganda chugging little twerp

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        2 hours ago

        No, I’m saying that if the banned people are only banned because they’re associated with the Russian government (/employed by sanctioned companies), then I’m not going to get outraged over the kernel maintainers. I do not expect them to break the law just to die on this hill.

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          15 minutes ago

          This is all hypothetical, they are calling everyone dismayed by this Russian bots, and it’s clear this is happening in sync with US aggression against Chinese professors and tech workers in the west. Most of my comments here have been pretty independent of what you’re saying anyways. The wider context which could even justify speculating about this where open source is beholden to western laws and corporate practices should be a wake up call to people.

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      1 day ago

      Considering the US foreign policy and the impact it has on the world, regardless of whether the white house is R or D, i propose to ban all american devs… preemptively, ya know?

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        1 day ago

        I don’t see what this has to do with my comment. I see no indication that all Russians are blanket-banned.

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          6 hours ago

          You are casually declaring all Russians should be assumed to be state agents until proven otherwise, and therefore the negative reaction to this obvious betrayal of principles, not even for convenience but for hatred, is unjustified.

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            2 hours ago

            I am literally saying the opposite: I am saying that it’s not clear that this applies to all Russians, or just ones that are sanctioned.

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        21 hours ago

        Honestly I wish that was a principle that the internet embraced more. We’re so trigger-happy to be outraged.

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          6 hours ago

          No the contributors should not be considered guilty until proven innocent just to give Linus et al the benefit of the doubt fuckface!

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            2 hours ago

            Oh geez, this the third reply by the same account… Again, I’m just saying that we don’t know whether the contributors were assumed guilty, or if they have actual ties to sanctioned companies.

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              17 minutes ago

              I’m pretty talkative on certain subjects when I see people mangling the discussion and engaging in bad faith.

              This is just softpedaling it and telling people to suspect foul play just because they are Russian honestly. There are some significant sanctions going up against Israeli companies but nobody seems concerned with that.