Im tried of giving my data to google for all my email needs. Preferably I would like to use the thunderbird client.

I also have a number of self hosted services. I used to run my own email server, but ATT no longer allows the ports open and I want to move away from self hosting that solution. Figured I would ask people what they use here, since Im assuming others are in a similar situation.

Any suggestions?

  • deadcatbounce@reddthat.com
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    6 hours ago

    Been using Zoho with multiple domains for many years. I have a business account and a personal account (and an admin account) in Zoho fed from maybe ten domains. DNS on Google cloud.

    Zoho is almost never down - can’t remember the last time - but they do tend to tinker stupidly occasionally. Logging in to the web is page after page of stupid questions - ok it’s three but they’re pushing their authentication app I don’t ever want. There’s PassKey but it doesn’t understand Linux/Bitwarden AFAICT. I use 2fa with Bitwarden. Documentation is good but there can be multiple pages on the same subject sometimes.

    Client mobile app is great. Admin mobile app is crap. Costs c. £60 a year which I think is good value given the ability to white page, (excessive) filters and automation*, mailing lists etc. Finding where you set an email address up is a bastard so take notes but they are eager to help if you can’t find it.

    I usually get pissed off with suppliers after a couple years of being jerked around. I’ve been with Zoho email for an easy decade maybe one and a half. It was definitely this century … but … !

    I’m very privacy minded, at least one of the domains is a addy.io proxy, but never seen any indication that my/client data is being sold. Spam malware is very tight and you can admin that to within an inch of its life in miriad of ways.

    Comes with all the bells and whistles you’d expect on the client end and on the server end. IMAP POP3 sure but I use the Zoho mobile client and web for all the features (tagging, priority etc) that Thunderbird won’t grok.

    Zoho had a deserved poor rep many years ago for going up and down like a tart’s drawers but it’s been nothing but up that I’ve noticed in the last 5 years.

    I have no affiliation with any company mentioned.

    I hosted my first email server in c.1996 on 14kbps before email admin became a full time job. I feel your pain.

    • I have the usual delay (real) send on my business account and a couple of delete after X days triggered by my addy.io . Logic can mix AND and OR with parentheses without a limit I have hit.
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      I switched over to Zoho as well recently. While there are some upsells, they are usually reasonable enough. I also occasionally use their other services like writer, notes, and calendar which is nice.