• Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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    26 days ago

    How can you simultaneously claim that abortion was protected only by precedent, yet the democrats did everything in their power to preserve it?

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      Oh you’re trying so hard to build a strawman! How adorable.

      Roe was established case law. Reproductive rights were settled. Blaming Democrats when the actions of Republicans baselessly dismissed it is moronic.

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          You may wish to observe that the Republicans have a majority in the House of Representatives, meaning the Democratic Caucus lacks the votes to reinstate it.

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            And, in states with Democratic majorities, they are codifying it at the state level. Sucks for the rest of us, though. I’m moving out of one of them for many reasons, but one important one is for my children.

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              Lots of red states are pushing for a vote on it and passing, too. It’s wild seeing “vote no on amendment 3” signs here in Missouri as if it’s not just advertising for the majority of us to show up and shut these chucklefucks up. I’m hoping that’s how it’ll go anyway 😓

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                Crossing my fingers for you! I’m hoping that Harris and certain single issue referenda (like marijuana) will bring people to the polls and while they’re there, they’ll vote for women’s rights.

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                  Same! There’s some interesting measures on our ballot that I’m making videos on to raise awareness for like rank choice voting. If you know anyone from Missouri have them check out my YouTube or TikTok! Links are in my profile:)

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                    That’s amazing! I will save this comment so that I can trace it back. I wish you (and the collective us) much success!

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                I saw a “vote no on question 1” sign in maryland and they claimed it was to “protect children”.

                You know what protects kids? Keeping their moms alive.

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            Republicans have a majority in the House of Representatives

            The GOP gained that majority in 2023. Dems had an opportunity to enshrine Roe in 2021 as well as in 2009 under Obama. In both instances, they decided pursuing the legislation would be too unpopular and punted.

            What’s more, the Dems had the opportunity to shut down the ACB nomination - weeks before Biden was sworn in. Feinstein waved her through, after McConnell had successfully stonewalled the Garland nomination for over a year. Dems cave on this shit constantly. There are simply too many Pro-Life Democrats to expect they will deliver on reinstating Roe.

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              IDK how that would possibly happen with Manchin and Sinema in there. It seems easier to pass a federal law.

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              Here you go, buddy.

              ReDUMBlicans.

              TL;DR:

              Obama left 105 empty federal judgeships when he left office.

              Republicans slowed down Democratic nominees during Obama’s first term.

              They virtually shut the process down in Obama’s final two years.

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              What a life. Just throw out nonsense statements with no evidence, don’t address a single counter point, and just go on living with ignorant confidence. I see the appeal of being Republican. Facts and reality are such a drain to deal with.

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          They have. In the seven states that have put abortion issues on the ballot since 2022, every single one has supported abortion, including red states: Montana, Kentucky, Kansas, and Ohio.

          10 states have abortion issues in their ballots this year. Abortion access is being picked up faster than “Constitutional Carry” did.

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      Logically, the answer would have to be that Democrats lack the power to preserve it. Which happens to be true because:

      1. Ordinary legislation would not be sufficient to overturn state laws regarding abortion due to the 10th Amendment, and even if it was the 2/3 Republican court would overturn it anyway.
      2. A constitutional amendment would require a 2/3 majority that Democrats will not have in this lifetime.
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        And so why weren’t the courts getting stacked the moment Biden took office?

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          Two reasons:

          1. Ethics
          2. The GOP engaged in a campaign of doing everything, fair and foul, to prevent or at least slow this from happening.
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          Remember Diane Feinstein?

          She was a crucial vote to fill court seats for biden. She also had dementia and then died. Her absence from the senate was part of what slowed filling vacancies.

          Also assholes like Manchin and Sinema - may they rot in hell.

          The democrats have become Such a big tent party that there’s no more room for common sense.