• schroedingershat@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      The gish gallop about how terrible energywende was for one.

      The tired lie about how geographically constrained pumped hydro is (but apparently fresh water for cooling is infinite).

      The whole stationary storage is impossible schtick (along witb all the other options, battery grid storage is already at double the scale new nuclear achieved in the 80s).

      There’s also the bit where you pretend french uranium all comes from ranger and cigar lake (and milling and conversion are done by the UF6 fairy) rather than filthy coal and diesel powered low grade mines in niger and central asia to smugly quote inaccurate CO2 numbers as if that made a plan that was never followed invalid.

      Basically just an unending hose of shellenberger bullshit.

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        1 year ago

        Please keep it constructive (see instance rules). I agree that these are all tired and long dis-proven talking points of the nuclear lobby, but this lobby was very successful in gaslighting many French like @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu and your style of argumentation is just going to make them defensive.

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          You have a point I guess. I find it difficult to consider the possibility of good faith when they roll out the “the greens ruined energywende and committed to gas” dogwhistle, but there is a possibility.

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        The transition for Germany is catastrophic (expected end of coal by 2038) but that doesn’t mean renewables are bad. Maybe I’m not aware of new ways to retain water high enough for it to generate energy falling down. By experience I know Luxembourg has one high on a hill, I don’t think it would be doable in a country like the Netherlands let’s say, it sounds pretty constrained to me.
        I’m just done arguing with you, you’re just being dishonest and extrapolating my views. Let’s agree to disagree.