• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    2 months ago

    Use physical force?

    Why is it all well and good for them to risk innocent peoples lives by firing a loaded weapon in a confined space?

    Firefighters risk their lives everyday, cops cant even risk a fight.

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      2 months ago

      Seriously? That’s your solution, a wrestling match with a knife weilding perp?

      • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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        2 months ago

        Yes?

        Thats a standard police response in the first world.

        Your solution is to murder innocent civilians.

      • socialmedia@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        They have tasers, which didn’t work. Then move to pepper spray to blind the person and batons to subdue them.

        Other countries where guns are uncommon but knife attacks are more common they have long hooked poles to capture someone. That’s impractical to carry so wouldn’t have been available in this situation but it is a tool that can be used when called out to a knife threat.

        The problem here is the response doesn’t match the crime (fare avoidance) and doesn’t match the threat either. If the only solution you have for littering is to blow up a city then its time to step back and rethink the problem.

        Three innocent people injured, months of investigation, and millions in lawsuit settlements. This is a failure of the officers but also a failure in training them how to respond.

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        2 months ago

        If it wasn’t for insane ideas they’d have to say the cops were maybe not wildly in the wrong here so insanity it is!

        • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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          Yep.

          A lot of people have a totally black and white view of the world, and they will never admit that, occasionally, the group they hate isn’t totally in the wrong. It’s kinda sad actually.

          • Lauchs@lemmy.world
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            I’d like to think it’s just because online skews young. I remember (with some shame) my stupid teenage anarchist days. Though I do worry that if I had, as so many do nowadays, ensconced myself only in views with which I agreed, maybe I wouldn’t have grown out of it. The more smart people you meet, disagree with and learn from, well, the bigger and more interesting your world becomes.

            I love the idea of Lemmy but goddamn, a good chunk of our userbase need to grow up and I’m not sure they ever will.