cross-posted from: https://lemmy.basedcount.com/post/114721
My humble takes on the most popular Lemmy instances, or “how to piss off the whole Fediverse with a single meme”.
Here are the links to each one of the mentioned instances:
Far Left Centre Left Centre Right Far Right Lemmygrad Exploding Heads Hexbear Lemmy.ml Lemmy.world Beehaw Pricefield Lemmy Based Count sh.itjust.works Blåhaj Lemmy Divisions by zero Lemmy NSFW Hack Liberty
Blahaj zone and beehaw don’t abuse defederation. Both instances use it for the exact purpose needed to achieve their goals. And I like that.
Literally the main reason I’m on blahaj zone is because I’m a trans lesbian and really don’t want to deal with the shit I’ve seen on the blocked instances.
The whole point of the fediverse is you join one that aligns with your values and queer phobic stuff is a hard line nope from me. It’s like the one place I feel reporting stuff actually does something.
I don’t disagree with that, I even said that much in the blahaj quadrant. I just wish there was an easier way to fix these problems instead of burning bridges, because they sure burn a lot of them.
Burnt bridges can’t be rebuilt. Refederation is always a possibility.
Beehaw has said they won’t defederate until Lemmy has better moderation tools. Which is something that is totally out of our control. I have no idea of better moderation tools or even on the road map and if they are I have no idea where on the road map they are.
No one does, there’s a whole discourse around the lack of a real roadmap for Lemmy and what the primary devs’ goals are. Hopefully it’ll happen someday, I guess.
Beehaw even said they’ll refederate with certain instances if/when moderation tools improve. The main problem is that there’s not a lot you can do to block off problematic users from instances on an individual basis.
If people took more than 30 seconds to read instead of being immediately reactionary, they’d have long since known beehaw’s defederations are due to a lack of lemmy’s own moderation tools currently.
But you can’t expect anyone to read anything. 😅
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I did read their entire statement, and while I can understand the reasoning behind it, I don’t agree with their whole defederation thing they have going on
Gotta be an ass? Leave that shit in your last social media of choice.
If that comment was enough to get you this upset, I don’t think you’re gonna last on any “social media of choice.” Better get out while you still can. 👀
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Political compass is a cringe concept ngl
Believing in it is. As a tool of expression it has limited uses. But ultimately it’s an abstraction ungrounded from objective reality.
isn’t the option to ignore an instance as a user coming to Lemmy real soon? I need that, hexbear can go fly a kite
Some apps have it, I use it on Connect.
hmm yes sadly Sync doesn’t have that option yet. Butthat combined with a browser extension to filter posts on the website could work fine thosync does have that option. its in the settings under filters, you can filter whole instances
/edit: settings->general->filters->instance filters
oh nice, thank you!
Sync’s filter doesn’t block comments unfortunately, so it’s of little help against users from Hexbear when they brigade.
Yes it is. Hopefully with 0.18.5, I’d like to think it’s been made a higher priority now.
Is there an ijustwanna.grill?
Lemmy.be would be a good domain for grill centrists
I’m in the Lemmy.world bubble trying to educate myself about the rest and evaluate if I might need to migrate someplace else. And also trying to figure out the difference between instances. But I can’t figure out what “based” means or is referring to?
Thanks for this btw! It’s really informative
I’m going to
shillsuggest lemm.ee, it’s a lovely instance that isn’t defederated from most (for better or worse, some people can’t stand hexbear but soon lemmy will add the ability to block instances at the user level, rather than defederating) and the lead admin is very sharp with the development - he’s even helped other instances when they’ve had major issues and he’s made various contributions to the lemmy codebase. It always feels like we’re getting the latest and slickest version of everything, with fewer bugs than other instances.Blocking instances on the user level doesn’t solve the core issue which is that Hexbear brigades, trolls and harasses enmasse in the first place. Their comments might be hidden for you, but they’re still a problem for everyone else. Blocking them is really just putting a bandaid over the problem.
Hexbear doesn’t brigade from what I’ve seen, there’s just more of them and they’re very active. If a post is at the top of your feed it’s likely to be at the top of theirs also.
If you haven’t seen it, that’s genuinely surprising. It’s what they’re known for at this point. Any thread about China, Russia or Ukraine gets flooded by them on any instance still federated with them. They shut down discussion, spam huge ugly emojis, and argue in bad faith to defend authoritarian regimes. They aren’t being defederated enmasse for being well-behaved.
The huge emojis is a lemmy bug, one which has basically been fixed (at least the lemm.ee admin seems to have fixed it, I imagine he’s pushed the code to the main stack but others won’t necessarily have adopted it yet).
I remember seeing a bit of a burst of them interacting with stuff when they first federated, but since then it died down massively - and not just because they’d been defederated, but in the threads they were still a part of. The novelty quickly wore off and users on both sides started noticing where they were posting more (hexbear users when they step out and lemmy users when they went in to hexbear) and behaving accordingly. Frankly, I’ve seen far more posts spamming moans about them than actual things to moan about.
Yup I was on world and switched to lemm.ee and I love it for the above reasons
“Based” means the person using it thinks whatever they’re referring to is incredibly awesome, a paragon of virtue.
You’re absolutely right about pricefield lemmy, it’s super cute.
As a former user of lemmy.world. I agree with this meme. That place is even worse than reddit.
Oh it’s awful. I hated it there and tried to not engage. It would have been helpful to know what each instance was like when I made an account on each of them.
Why the hell is beehaw so far left
Because it is one of the most left leaning instances? Where would you put it?
It seems more center-left to me
We ask people to be nice to each other. That’s pretty far left these days. 😂
My favorite part was that it points out what OP clearly thinks are flaws in Beehaw’s strategy but concedes that the strategy has worked.
Where do you place us Sopuli users, QuentinCallaghan? 😃
So that’s why Ive not been seeing half my subscriptions. Guess I gotta swap instances again.
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Monero.town? Yeah, that user was nutty.
Thank you. Because of this meme I know know what instances I should look for
I liked the look of Hack Liberty, but it’s pretty much dead there aside from the Netsec comm, and even then.
Well, you’re not wrong.
Everything at the top of that can just go away. I don’t mind left or right wing necessarily. but their complete unwillingness to even concede the other people may have a point is infuriating. Interacting with them is pointless.
