She set a tone at the very start when she walked right into his space to shake his hand and made him almost pull back into himself in response. She was in charge and never stopped being in charge.

Harris also managed what neither Joe Biden nor Hillary Clinton nor any of the 2016 Republicans managed to do which is successfully bait Donald Trump and get under his skin. Within a few minutes Trump was visibly angry and not in a way that empowered him but in a way that made him lose focus, go down rabbit holes and generally go off onto damaging tangents. Spittle anger, not righteous anger, shall we say.

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    It’s crazy how much things have changed in 8 years. Before Trump came on the scene, Fox was very biased, but their stories had a basis in fact. 4 years ago they had gone down the drain, but still prevented a coup by calling AZ for Biden. Now they tell lies about as frequently as Trump.

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      I think the change came with Obama, but that’s also around the time I moved out of the place where I heard it all the time, so it could just be that that’s when my normal meter was reset.

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      4 years ago? They kept repeating birtherism lies about Obama from day 1. The second Trump was a candidate, they flipped to unbased conspiracy theories. We are almost at 16 years of this bullshit.