We need taxes for all - also the super-rich.

“Tax the rich” is an official EU petition. The EU Parliament has to deal with it when successful.

7 EU countries must reach the quorum. And in total 1M Votes are needed. Check yours in the chart and share, cross post etc.!

The petition calls for the introduction of a wealth tax on very large fortunes. Sign the petition here

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      2 months ago

      10millions is not an insurmountable amount if you are smart enough to get a good job and are smart enough when investing your money.

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        we are talking accumulated savings not turnover. Either way 10M is well above average lifetime earnings.

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          It’s also way below what you can earn with a single album or game hit. Sportsball players. GRR Martin makes 10m from book sales each year.

          No, those aren’t average cases but they’re also not examples of ill-gotten wealth.

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      Usually by starting a company that produced valuable goods and services benefitting everyone and profiting off of it.

      You can also gamble but thats by definition a losing game

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          sounds quiet unusual to be honest

          I think it’s the most common road to be a millionaire.

          Microsoft - Bill Gates Amazon - Jeff Bezos Berkshire Hathaway - Warren Buffet CDProjekt - Adam Kiciński, Marcin Iwiński (They started from absolute nothing, bazar stand with bootleg software) TOYOTA - Akio Toyoda, branched out from family buisness in textile industry

          Literally every single successful business made it’s founder a fortune

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            • Microsoft: monopolist founded with a “small loan”
            • Amazon: monopolist founded with a “small loan”
            • Berkshire Hathaway - founded by a congressman’s son with access to wealth and education
            • CDProjekt, wow an outlier!
            • TOYOTA - generational wealth

            Literally every single successful business made it’s founder a fortune

            LMFAO “the winners won”. Any other tautologies you want to spout? “The losers lost” maybe?

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              Even if you had access to the capital, you’d most likely fail - because running a business is hard

              For every Bill Gates or Bezos there are dozens if not hundreds who sunk the entire initial investment.

              You hate survivors for some reason.

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                Invests money they don’t own at no risk

                Allowed to do so as many times as necessary until success

                Has access to advisors, education, can hire entire teams out of the gate

                “I am just like you”

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            “valuable goods … benefiting everyone” not on the cost of others is what’s lacking here

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              valuable goods … benefiting everyone

              If other people are buying what you produce, in almost every case you produce something valuable, and a person who buys from you benefits.

              There are exceptions - drugs, weapons, slot machines ect.

              But basically everything you see around yourself that was made by man, was produced by a successful business, and bought by somone who needed it.

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                  not on the cost of others

                  It’s not on the cost of others, its a fair exchange. Both sides benefit

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                    And the people in the middle? Sure, the people exploited for the production of those goods benefited a lot. The child forced to harvest coffee and chocolate really enjoyed the transaction.