• AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This wasn’t always the stance for the right wingers, therefore it did used to be entirely possible to disagree politically and still be friends. But the new right is openly hostile to everything and everyone, so I agree. If you support that shit then we are not friends. As a matter of fact, if you are an enemy of democracy, you are my enemy.

    • kboy101222@sh.itjust.works
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      What? This has always been their plans, they just used to be more subtle about it. This is the same group that started the drug crisis so they could continue arresting black people and hippies with impunity, who let Vietnam go on way longer so a Republican could be involved in peace, who used said drug money to fund terrorist cells when the middle east had a little too much freedom and elected leaders for them.

      They’ve been comically evil for longer than most people in the world have been alive, now they just have a criminally insane figurehead spouting all that shit publicly

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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        I’m not talking about the evil orchestrating bastards at the top. I’m talking about the average person that you and I would talk to. Since the bastards were a lot more subtle like you said, there were a lot of average people who just wanted lower taxes and more fiscal responsibility, and didn’t know anything about all of the other stuff you said. Hell, some of that stuff wasn’t public knowledge until much later.

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        2 months ago

        This has been the plan of the religious right in particular. Reagan let them take over the republican party and that’s why they’ve become such radicals lately. They’re being run by the Christian Taliban now. This wasn’t always their plan, but it is now.

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      You just called them openly hostile, and then openly called them your enemy. If you hate someone because they hate, I don’t see how that makes you any different.

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          Not a paradox. Tolerance is a social contract, and one that the MAGA crowd is blatantly breaking. If you aren’t tolerant to others, no one owes you tolerance.

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        2 months ago

        “I was only trying to shoot you, and you PUNCH ME?! So MuCh FoR tOlErAnCe!”

        Shut the whole fuck up you dumb piece of shit.

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          2 months ago

          “I’m tolerant as fuck you dumb fucking cunt. I believe in peace. So kill yourself and your whole family. Why is there so much political division you piece of shit!?”

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            What are you talking about, nobody said that?? And if someone willingly chooses to be intolerant to a minority, actively tries to get rid of their rights or prevent them from getting equal rights, absolutely no one owes this person tolerance. That is obvious, a society cannot be tolerant of intolerance

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              Yes, you can. In fact, you should. When you let klan members march you gain something important. You get them out in the open and see their true colors. And if you’re a Daryl Davis type, you can change minds and make the world better. By cutting off people you disagree with, you cut off communication. And those people go underground, and get worse. If someone is saying something that is bad how do you expect that to change without discourse? The left used to be able to steelman the rights positions, and walk them to back to a more reasonable position. Now it seems mostly what I see is the left saying, “I’m right, and you need to be cast out of society.” I’m aware there are truly bad actors (Milo Yiannopoulos types) that are just grifters and don’t deserve the conversation. But do you really think that half of America is just grifting? For society to get better, you have to love your enemies too. And the only way to fight bad ideas, is with better ones.

      • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        This thread is a hilarious compilation of leftists going mask off, only to show no teeth