• pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
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    Actually American gun owners have about 78-157 billion bullets stockpiled between them, most of them right-wing. They regularly train with their weapons and have made this second civil war into an important aspect of their culture. A lot of them believe it’s the end times because the book of revelations talks of brother turning against brother.

    The left is actually woefully untrained and outmatched, and that’s because of years of nonviolence being browbeaten over their heads and used to propagandize them to do nothing to meaningfully advance any of their causes. The left was fattened up with decades of propaganda and are now ready for the slaughter.

    So is the right, really. The only ones who are going to win this coming civil war are the BRICS countries.

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      Yes, they have a lot of guns. On the other hand, we’ve had to tell them, at least twice in my lifetime, not to drink bleach to cure diseases.

      They won’t last a week.

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        They’re really, really not as stupid as you think and underestimating them to make yourself feel better will only result in suffering for you and yours. It’s enabled them to do so much damage already.

        If they’re really so stupid, how did they manage to pack the courts and get abortion banned? Get Trump elected?

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          I’d say there are more gun-owning Democrats than there are critically thinking Republicans. Trump voters are the kind of people that fall for Nigerian prince email scams…twice.

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          You’re confusing normal Americans with the owners of the country. Also, plenty of militant leftists are armed in the US and not all gun owners are crazy fascists.

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          The ones that think they can win a civil war are pretty fucking dumb. They do have a lot of weaponry though and that is something we should be concerned about and needs to be acted on.

          A bunch of Dems arming up isn’t the answer though. We need to make sure the war mongers don’t get back in charge and we need to keep hunting down the dangerous threats and arresting there asses.

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      I’ve seen enough Doomsday Peppers to know that these “prepared” right wingers will be gasping for breath on the floor when it actually comes time to run and do something physically strenuous. Fat fucks couldn’t even breath through a thin mask, their brain cells are the only thing they’ll slaughter due to lack of oxygen.

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        That’s what you hope. The reality is that they’re armed and militant, and people will be shocked when they start going door to door.

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          Are you confusing Y’all Quaeda with the Gestapo? Wtf. Even if 100 militias somehow defied everything we’ve been seeing for decades and somehow evaded getting caught early in the planning phase due to the surveillance state, what makes you think anything they’d do wouldn’t be shut down by military police within a week?

          It sounds almost like you’re getting off on a weird horror fantasy from a super shitty movie.

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      Your ass is not a legitimate source to pull facts from.

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        Statistical averages are, however. 47% of Americans own a gun. They have on average 500-1000 bullets on hand at any one time, enough for one or two trips to their gun ranges, which totals up to 78 to 157 billion bullets.

        Just because you are insulted when faced with the fact that the left is woefully unprepared for that does not make it not true. Reality does not bend to your wishes.

        You can either accept the facts as I present them to you and prepare yourself, or when this whole thing blows up next year, suffer. Your choice.

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          As a left leaning individual with multiple firearms and plenty of ammunition for them, might want to consider there are plenty of us are part of that 47%.

          Obviously a sample bias, but quite a few fellow veterans that I went to college with could put my meager collection to shame and share similar viewpoints.

          That being said, your doomer outlook and gross oversimplification/assumptions are a joke. There will be no civil war, assholes will continue to be assholes, and you are still making this shit up as you type. Most of these Meal Team 6, cosplaying motherfuckers are too chickenshit to have an altercation where they aren’t the only one with the scary broomstick, and 99% of the blowhards wouldn’t last a day in an actual combat scenario let alone a “war”.

          Bigots are bigots and will constantly attempt to suppress that which doesn’t align with their narrow minded worldview, however a civil war is not on the horizon… JFC get over yourself.

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            I think liberal gun owners have 1. A much better grasp of the first rule of fight club, 2. Don’t have a fetish about what amounts to a tool.

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            There’s no real evidence to substantiate that claim, but a whole lot of right wingers are open about their gun ownership. Which I agree is stupid, but that’s just how reality is.

            Some sauce:

            Perhaps unsurprisingly, there is a stark partisan divide in gun ownership. About 44% of adults who identify as Republican or lean Republican say they own a gun, while just 20% of those who identify as Democrat or lean Democrat say they do, according to Pew.

            Where a person lives also plays a role. The Pew survey found that 46% of those who lived in rural areas said they owned a gun, while only 28% of suburbanites and 19% of city dwellers owned a gun. The Northeast has the lowest rates of gun ownership at 16%, while roughly a third of people in the South, Midwest and West report personally owning a gun.

            So clearly right wingers are twice as likely to own guns as left wingers, meaning they will likeky win a civil war when it comes down to it, and given what they want, you can’t afford to continue being in denial about this. Your life is at stake here.

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                Jesus Christ, you actually are offended 🤦 Look, if you care about ensuring the right wing loses, which you’ll need to do to prevent fascism and genocide, you’ll put aside your pride and fix the problem. You don’t, and everyone suffers. It’s as simple as that.

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                  I think you’re confusing us finding you insufferable with us being offended. Your weird little fantasies are cringey and boring, not offensive.

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                    And you’re really bad at hiding it, too. But the reality of my words is there whether you want to believe it or not. I can only lead you to water, you’re the one who has to make the choice to drink. The only one who’s gonna suffer from it is you and your family if you don’t. 🤷

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          500-1k rounds is nothing. Most of us have usually 10-20k rounds. 500 rounds is what I burn through in a range day. Hell I’ve got probably 50k 22lr at this point alone. And that’s just for plinking. 9mm/308/x39/556/54r/20g/12g/45 combined that’s probably another 40k rounds.

          Most of us buy in bulk, ammo isn’t cheap, so when deals come around you buy as much as you can afford.

          So I’d say your estimates are on the low end.

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              Huh? Having ammo doesn’t make anything worse. People have been stock piling it for decades now. Ammo doesn’t expire if it’s properly stored. I don’t see how having it magically makes anything worse.

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          It kinda sounds like you listened to the original run of the “It Could Happen Here” podcast series a few too many times. It could happen here, but the probability of it sparking is very low, and even then the probability of that spark growing beyond anything more than localized/isolated incidents is even lower.

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      Right wing gun owners average BMI is like 40+

      All the guns in the world won’t help you win a war if you can barely walk a mile without getting winded.