• TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I think their point was the Dems might be better, but they’re still unacceptable so we shouldn’t celebrate the minor successes from them because it makes us complacent about the system.

    I disagree, because incremental change is still positive change, and I remember what happened to LGBT people when I was young, and as bad as the Right is today, those incremental changes have made life significantly better. Not even the Dems supported gay people 30 years ago. Now it would be political suicide for a Dem not to wholeheartedly support things like protecting gay marriage. Just as an example.

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      5 months ago

      You make great points. All we can actually hope for in this shit system IS incremental change.

      Focus on how these shitbags treat the poor. Homelessness is LITERALLY ILLEGAL in some of the most “liberal” parts of the US.

      Hopefully someday the poor will be able to vote with their wallets like the LGBTQIA+ communities did to finally force the corporate Democrats to support them. /s

    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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      5 months ago

      I disagree, because incremental change is still positive change, and I remember what happened to LGBT people when I was young, and as bad as the Right is today, those incremental changes have made life significantly better.

      It’s not incremental change, it’s compounded change. The Stonewall Riots happened in 1969. In 55 years, we went from gay people should be thrown in jail to corporations openly pandering to the LGBT community. There people are alive today who can remember how bad it was. There are always going to be setbacks as society progresses. We’re seeing that right now with trans and drag queens being vilified.

      I think their point was the Dems might be better, but they’re still unacceptable so we shouldn’t celebrate the minor successes from them because it makes us complacent about the system.

      We should celebrate the minor successes, they are still Ws. Celebrating them allows us tp have hope to push for a better future. We should be like “Fuck yeah, we won. What’s next on our list to achieve?” We should never come complacent because regressives will push us right back to the dark ages.