A few days ago I deleted all of my posts and comments from reddit, but today they somehow reappeared.

I don’t know if that’s a bug or the admins themselves are restoring content, but I’m sure they’d have incentives to do so considering that they make money from your content, whether that is from generated clicks to the website or from selling those data to other companies to train AI models.

  • crowsby@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    The creator of tildes.net is a former Reddit backend developer, and believes this is likely due to how Reddit caching works (or doesn’t work), rather than an intentional subversion of user intent:

    Yes, this is almost certainly a technical issue. The way reddit caches things probably isn’t the standard way you’re thinking of, like a short-term cache that expires and refreshes itself. There are multiple layers of “cached” listings and items for almost everything, and a lot of these caches are actually data that’s stored permanently and kept up to date individually.

    For example, when you view your comments page, Reddit uses a cached (permanent) list of which comments are in that page. There is a separate list stored for each sorting method. For example, maybe you’d have something like this with some made-up comment IDs:

    Deimos’s comments by new: 948, 238, 153
    Deimos’s comments by hot: 238, 153, 948
    Deimos’s comments by controversial: 153, 238, 948
    If I post a new comment, it will go through each list and add the new ID in the right spot (for example, in the “new” list it always just goes at the start). If I delete a comment, it goes through every list, and removes the ID if it can find it in there.

    One of the problems with this system (which is probably what’s causing @phedre’s issues, and affecting many other people trying to delete their whole history) is that all of these listings are capped at 1000 items. If you already have more than 1000 comments and you post a new one, the 1000th comment currently in the new list gets “pushed off the end”. The comment still exists, but you won’t be able to see it by looking through your comments page, because it’s no longer in that listing.

    Deleting comments also doesn’t cause previously “pushed off” ones to get re-added. If you have 5000 comments, your listing will only include 1000 of them. If you delete 50 of the ones in the listing, your listing now has 950 comments in it. If you delete all 1000 from the listing, your comments page will appear empty, but you actually still have 4000 comments that will be visible in the comments pages they were posted in.

    And this is only one aspect of it. There are also multiple other places and ways that comments are cached—comment trees are cached (order and nesting of comments on a comments page, for all the different sorting methods), rendered HTML versions of comments are cached, API data is probably cached, and so on.

    All of these issues are probably just some combination of all of your posts being difficult to find and access due to the listing limits or certain cached representations of posts not being cleared or updated properly.

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    They’ve restored my posts and comments twice now, both times after I used Power Delete Suite to edit and delete them. First time, they restored everything. Second time, they restored a couple of my more recent posts and the comments on those threads.

    It’s not caching or any 1000 item limits. My account is 16 years old but I didn’t have that many comments.

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    I’ve noticed that some posts and comments are appearing in my scrubbed profile once subreddits that were private open back up. And just the posts/comments in those subreddits. I’m keeping my account open until the 30th so I can periodically check back and make sure there isn’t anything else that needs removing.

    Are you using Power Delete Suite? You can overwrite comments with an edit before deleting them and it makes things a bit easier than doing it by hand.

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    Assuming this isn’t just a temporary caching issue like someone else has suggested, denying people the right to delete their own data risks bring a GDPR nightmare down no the company.

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      Reddit sees “anonymized” data as being okay via GDPR. Thus Reddit thinks they can comply with GDPR by simply deleting your name off of the top of all the comments you leave behind.

      This is why you occasionally see comments marked as written by [deleted] with the comment body intact - that user used the GDPR to wipe their account.

      I’m not an expert on any legal system, let alone the European one, and so I can’t say if that’s sufficient by the letter of the law. But Reddit seems to think so, and thus if you “delete” your stuff it really just deletes your username (basically).

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        Removing the name isn’t enough. Some posts might contain stuff like “my real name is … and i live in so-and-so city” or “my birthday is today too!” which would all count as PII. This would need to be scrubbed too.

        For the “[deleted]” part - there’s another way that happens. If you delete your reddit account w/o deleting the comment/post, then your text stays, but “[deleted]” is reported as the user who wrote it.

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          That’s true, but that’s not how Reddit sees it. Reddit says they have a “legitimate interest” in keeping your posts around, no matter what those posts say. They say that just removing the username is enough.

          Again, I can’t speak to whether that’ll hold up in court, but that’s what Reddit is saying.

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    FYI: if the issue is using a bot to delete as some speculate, you can sort your comments by top and delete those manually. Those are highest visibility.