The video was filmed before the election results had even been announced.

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    Reminder that Roger Stone is not the only coup plot insider who confessed Trump’s Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript

    …audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.

    Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]

    STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.

    He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.

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      A member of team Trump (Peter Navarro maybe?) was describing the plan on Ari Melber’s MSNBC show. Ari stopped him and said, “you know that’s a coup, right? What you’re describing is a coup.” - The guy had no idea.

      Education is important.

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      Fun fact: in the past 30 years of presidential elections Republicans have had more riots than they have popular vote victories!

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          Yes, and it appears that had vote counting been allowed unimpeded in Florida, as opposed to undemocratically stopping it for partisan gain, Gore would have won the electoral college and popular vote in 2000.

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          There’s really nothing fun about defining land as more important than people.

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        Would you believe me if I told you that at least 3 of the current supreme court members were lawyers arguing on behalf of Bush in that case?

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          Kavanaugh, Roberts, and Alito?

          Also, while wikipediaing Alito, I learned that Alito worked under Trump’s sister as an AUSA and she spoke at Alito’s confirmation hearing. Also, Bill Clinton appointed Trump’s sister to the appellate court.

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            Tell me you didn’t read the linked article without telling me you didn’t read the linked article.

            “In each case, if the newly examined votes had been allowed to count in the November election, Mr Gore would have won Florida’s 21 electoral college votes by a narrow majority and he, not Mr Bush, would be the president. Instead, Mr Bush officially carried Florida by 537 votes after recounts were stopped.”

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                I’ve been reading it since January 2001.

                If the recounts had been allowed to complete, no matter how you counted the votes, Gore would have won.

                Bush only became President because they stopped counting valid ballots.

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                  My comment was tongue in cheek and a joke. You missed the joke. I agree with you that Gore should have won.

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          Always knew that why hated Bush so much and still do. Gore was my first presidential election. Just turn 20.

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        The republicans have not won the presidency legitimately since HW Bush. I don’t count GW’s second term because the first one was illegitimate.

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    This title is clickbait garbage, but at least it doesn’t use the word “slam”.

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    This made me realize that all of the Trump kids, especially junior, have been awfully quiet. All of his usual higher ups have been pretty silent.

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        They got billions from the Saudis by being an “ambassador” while Trump was president. Who knows what slimy shit they’re doing.

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      They know that for the rest of their lives long after Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump is gone they will be tied to a father with the same reputation as Benedict Arnold. That realization has got to be depressing.

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    The clip was part of Guldbrandsen’s documentary, A Storm Foretold, released in March of this year.

    So there’s nothing actually new about this video. It’s just that Donald forgot that someone filmed the slimy inner workings of his re-election campaign when it came time to mount a defense, and he doesn’t have any good lawyers to help him avoid painting himself into a corner again. Hell, he probably lied to his lawyers, too.

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      Hell, he probably lied to his lawyers, too.

      I don’t think there’s any “probably” about it lol. If Trump’s talking he’s lying. That’s just how it works.

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    Reminder that Roger Stone coordinated timing with WikiLeaks to drop the emails that Russia had hacked and passed off to WikiLeaks. The low point of Trump’s campaign - the release of the Access Hollywood tape - had WikiLeaks dripping emails within hours. Julian Assange’s outfit had fallen from a champion of press freedom to a facilitator of the Russian dictatorship interfering in elections.

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    The video … depicts the right-wing lobbyist dictating a fake elector plot in key battleground states. The video was taken on November 5, 2020, two days before the election was called, thus disproving Trump’s main defense that he and his allies genuinely believed they had won the race.

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    I’d like for him to rot in jail, but doesn’t this need to prove that Stone plotted with Trump to be of any use?

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      That’s kind of the point of RICO. If this is a coordinated conspiracy then Trump can’t just say “hey listen my advisors told me this was legal” if those advisors are on tape giving out the details of their criminal conspiracy

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      As pointed out elsehwere, Stone does not have to be collaborating directly with Trump, but there are still a lot of unidentified co-conspirators, and “other persons known and unknown to the grand jury.” There’s room for Stone to be in one of those groups.

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      I find it very hard to imagine that there isn’t evidence of this traitor directly plotting with Trump et al. We just haven’t seen it yet.

      It could just be hopium, but I doubt it; we certainly haven’t seen the last of Jack Smith on Jan 6th indictments, after all.

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        I find it very hard to imagine that there isn’t evidence of this traitor directly plotting with Trump et al. We just haven’t seen it yet.

        I have no doubts that at some point before the election their was a Coup Plot Kickoff Meeting with at least Bannon, Stone, Treason Trump, and Guiliani in the meeting. I don’t know who else was in this meeting, but we know that Bannon and Stone attended the meeting because of their video confessions.