The cold, hard truth in the war between Russia and Ukraine today is that Ukraine’s last-gasp offensive has failed, and no amount of spin will change the outcome.
This claim about “right of self determination” is completely absurd. If that was truly the issue, it wouldn’t be achieved by destroying apartment buildings with missiles, tanks and bombs in an entirely different area.
In both cases that Russia annexed, it was after ‘referendums’. Both places were filled with populations that identified as Russian. In the donbas case, there was reports of Ukrainian shelling before the wider Russian invasion, but that kind of doesn’t matter as there was a civil war going on.
I get really annoyed with the discourse here.
Should Ukrainians have the right to self-determination? Yes. Do I believe anything that comes out of any government’s mouthpiece? Not without careful consideration. Does that mean I sometimes fall for propaganda from either side? Yes. Does it mean that I see through a lot? I hope so. Is it frustrating seeing people cheer for dead Russians even though those same people know that these kids will be shot if they don’t fight? Very
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Why do you keep changing the topic?
How many slurs have you seen directed towards Russians - since this is worse?
This claim about “right of self determination” is completely absurd. If that was truly the issue, it wouldn’t be achieved by destroying apartment buildings with missiles, tanks and bombs in an entirely different area.
In both cases that Russia annexed, it was after ‘referendums’. Both places were filled with populations that identified as Russian. In the donbas case, there was reports of Ukrainian shelling before the wider Russian invasion, but that kind of doesn’t matter as there was a civil war going on.
I get really annoyed with the discourse here.
Should Ukrainians have the right to self-determination? Yes. Do I believe anything that comes out of any government’s mouthpiece? Not without careful consideration. Does that mean I sometimes fall for propaganda from either side? Yes. Does it mean that I see through a lot? I hope so. Is it frustrating seeing people cheer for dead Russians even though those same people know that these kids will be shot if they don’t fight? Very