Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I’ve seen, it looks like he did get grazed.

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        The shooter and an audience member are dead. How Machiavellian do you think these people are that they’d kill two people for a PR stunt?

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          Yeah I too thought it was staged until bodies showed up. Anyone continuing to say this was staged at this point feels very Alex Jones.

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          What? Are you fucking delusional? I understand brown people are not really people for you guys there, but do you realize how many people indirectly and directly “these” people have killed in Syria alone, counting only cases of being simply too lazy?

          Killing two people for fucking presidency? You think it’s unrealistic?

          Anyway, the answer to the question “how Machiavellian” is “fully” for everybody participating in politics, because we are still homo sapiens and our time is just as Machiavellian as Machiavelli’s time, there are no naive people there, and if there are no poisonings and assassinations left and right there, that’s for the same reason only there are no nukings left and right on the map, not because they are moral.

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            I understand brown people are not really people for you guys

            What the fuck… ?

            How am I delusional for not thinking this was staged? The moving parts required for it to be staged are an order of magnitude more complex and voluminous than it just being a lone nut with an AR-15. Unless you have some actual solid verifiable evidence that calls the boring reality of the situation into question, I’d maybe dial down the rhetoric a tad.

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        I’m just sick at how much of a coup this is for the Trump campaign. That photo is going to do so much work

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            Right? USSS is the proper abbreviation for the United States Secret Service.

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              Schutzstaffel, as in protective service would probably be a better description of what they actually do I guess

              Secret service better fits sg like the CIA

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            Again, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just shot a random person, claimed they were the shooter and wrapped this up.

            He is an abhorrently cruel person. And those that follow him are as well. None of this is outlandish enough to not be true.

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      Don’t stoop to that level. Assume it was real. Base your conclusions on evidence. Not conspiracies.

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        We’re already there. They just haven’t started the American Violence™ phase yet. Right now we’re in the American Saber Rattling™ phase.

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      Why?

      I mean it might have been, but with the modern insanity around politics and guns and violence, and the general unhinged nature of the population generally, it’s equally or more likely to be some deranged person with a gun. WHY for the love of god add to the chaos by speculating without any evidence yet? Does it help?

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      Absolutely. False flag for sure.

      Edit: /s. Half of you are way too serious.

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      The bullet is totally a crisis actor, you can also see it in that one Reagan clip. /s

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        Can be seen in the JFK “assassination” as well. Dude gets around. Was younger then and could do some crazy acrobatics back then though.