When I was on , I’d argue every day with the “Men’s Rights Activists” on the circumcision subreddits. It would range from dishonest shit like “most doctors doing circumcision are women” to really unfair attacks like “why aren’t feminists protesting about male suicide” (answer: because MRAs are fucking assholes and feminists have their own problems). In the end, it was those guys that drove me out of Reddit for good.
I was just super embarrassed, because any normal person would see their conversations and think that anti-circumcision people were massive turds.
I don’t get that one about protesting. Why aren’t MEN protesting about male suicide rates? I’ve never even heard of one protest in regards to it.
It reminds me of the line racists use about the black community. “Why don’t black people do anything about black on black violence?” And that one is easy because… they have and are. They protest. They form community action groups. They pressure local governments. They speak out. There is so much movement in black communities across America to address poverty, violence, education and more. White people just don’t see it or hear about it because the media does not care and does not show their efforts but it is there.
Never identified as an MRA but, having dipped my toe into the waters on that shit a bit, straight up I honestly genuinely unironically think they don’t actually give a shit about male suicide rates or “men” in general at all. They are for one reason or another as a whole: deeply selfish bitter reactionary people who don’t care about community and they are basically cosplaying like they have one.
And really that isn’t surprising because the truth is that if you actually ARE serious about digging into and addressing any of the grievances they claim to be concerned with you will actually start to realize that essentially ALL of them are symptoms of cis white male patriarchy under capitalism. Take family court for example. Half of MRAs probably think there’s some kind of feminist cabal out to persecute fathers but the degree to which family court favors mothers (if at all) is the result of:
1: Old crusty white male judges who decided centuries ago that a woman’s role is to be nurturer and a father’s role is to work a job.
2: The reality that men are in general not conditioned to build and maintain support networks through friends and family which in turn makes the logistics of childcare more difficult.
When I was on
, I’d argue every day with the “Men’s Rights Activists” on the circumcision subreddits. It would range from dishonest shit like “most doctors doing circumcision are women” to really unfair attacks like “why aren’t feminists protesting about male suicide” (answer: because MRAs are fucking assholes and feminists have their own problems). In the end, it was those guys that drove me out of Reddit for good.
I was just super embarrassed, because any normal person would see their conversations and think that anti-circumcision people were massive turds.
I don’t get that one about protesting. Why aren’t MEN protesting about male suicide rates? I’ve never even heard of one protest in regards to it.
It reminds me of the line racists use about the black community. “Why don’t black people do anything about black on black violence?” And that one is easy because… they have and are. They protest. They form community action groups. They pressure local governments. They speak out. There is so much movement in black communities across America to address poverty, violence, education and more. White people just don’t see it or hear about it because the media does not care and does not show their efforts but it is there.
Never identified as an MRA but, having dipped my toe into the waters on that shit a bit, straight up I honestly genuinely unironically think they don’t actually give a shit about male suicide rates or “men” in general at all. They are for one reason or another as a whole: deeply selfish bitter reactionary people who don’t care about community and they are basically cosplaying like they have one.
And really that isn’t surprising because the truth is that if you actually ARE serious about digging into and addressing any of the grievances they claim to be concerned with you will actually start to realize that essentially ALL of them are symptoms of cis white male patriarchy under capitalism. Take family court for example. Half of MRAs probably think there’s some kind of feminist cabal out to persecute fathers but the degree to which family court favors mothers (if at all) is the result of: 1: Old crusty white male judges who decided centuries ago that a woman’s role is to be nurturer and a father’s role is to work a job. 2: The reality that men are in general not conditioned to build and maintain support networks through friends and family which in turn makes the logistics of childcare more difficult.
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Leave it to men on reddit to pivot the conversation from “why circumcision is bad” to “evil women think circumcisions aren’t enough!”
Laughable fuckheads.