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      Yeah, I like the message but I think that stat is misleading by design. It doesn’t make sense to power a home for a year with solar.

      Does that mean it’s the cost of solar power itself, or is it some weird way to talk about installing solar capacity?

      It should just be how many homes can be permanently powered by investing that much in solar capacity, which is probably a much lower number…

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        I’m guessing the math was taking the total amount spent divided by how much it cost to power a house for a year with solar energy, which doesn’t really say anything. Good intention, bad execution.

      • @lightscription@lemmy.worldOPM
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        I think the essential point is, rather, instead of being destructive abroad, we could be productive at home. We could use our resources to improve life here instead of being complicit in taking the lives of others.

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          It just smells like “I don’t care if it isn’t true, it’s still evil and should be acted upon” some people respond with when they tout false statistics or facts when it comes to queer pedofilia or minority crimes and someone fact checks

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              I think it’s neglecting a big part of solar cost to say that circa 341 dollar would be sufficient to power a household for a year unless that household had a lot of prerequisites already filled such as already having the solar installed plus being power efficient in general (such as using air heat pump rather than older heating and cooling solutions).

              If you don’t count “microproducers” of solar power with panels of their own roof I have no idea of the cost of construction, production and delivery of the power so I guess if it’s built close enough to a large population it might work.

              Im not an engineer, Ive only researched the cost and savings for my own property in the north of Sweden so there is a huge difference in market and population. For me the panel and control installation would be around 8,000 USD due to necessity for wiring rework as well

  • @lightscription@lemmy.worldOPM
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    Pretty cool mirror symmetry with solar above and carbon cloud below. That is also an impressive way to convey the information along with the stats. Good symbol design.

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    Guns, Butter, and Growth: The Consequences of Military Spending Reconsidered

    […] military spending, social spending, the economy, tax revenue, debt, and the money supply are all related to one another. This implies statistical models that estimate the effect of military spending on social spending or on the economy without considering the ways in which these variables affect and are affected by one another likely are misspecified.

    […] we find that military spending has a nonlinear effect on economic growth that varies over time. Increasing military spending leads to significantly lower GDP growth in the first three to six months following the increase and then significantly higher economic growth starting approximately one year after the increase.


    Oversimplification leads to bad conclusions.

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      How is “this” an oversimplification exactly? Yes, there is an interrelationship between the factors you quote. Yes, short-term spending on the military might improve the economy initially, but, like the quote says, the effect is nonlinear and inhibits growth in the long run.

      Your quote supports rather than refutes the claim of this activist infographic. I would have to delve deeper into their sourcing, but the position is still strong overall.

      Instead of using war to stimulate the economy, a Green New Deal could and the benefit would be sustained long term. It just takes large-scale leadership.

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      What claim is not true? There are several claims. You just deny it and that suffices, Kai Ro? The “moment” is rigged for you.

      • Kairos
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        Sorry I’m dumb and misread it. Its technically false but that’s disingenuous. My brain read it as “could power <number> more homes…” Which is false because supply and demand stuff. I’m kind of a stickler for (against?) lying with statistics.

        • @lightscription@lemmy.worldOPM
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          Ok, check the stat sources. Right. I’m betting they are valid just thinking about how much fossil fuels are expended in a war, how much all those bombs and weapons cost, and how good solar can be in a sunny climate like the US Southwest or the Middle East.

          • Kairos
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            Yeah they are likely valid. Like I said–i’m a stickler.