• FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I get this was meant to get attention

    But you know what else gets attention?

    A concentrated campaign of [Redacted] focused entirely on [redacted] and followed up with a mass [redacted]

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    Just Stop Oil is an advertisement for investors.

    Their process is attention grabbing high exposure protest that is then used as a form of advertising and “this is our impact” to philanthropy investors. It’s essentially a business. Some notes I took in a chat when doing research with a friend:

    Trevor Neilson, alongside Rory Kennedy and Aileen Getty are founders of the CEF (Climate Emergency Fund)

    Trevor Neilson is a director of Wastefuels limited with Aileen Getty and Nck hurd mp

    Trevor Neilson is a co-founder of I (x) Net zero, Nick Hurd is a chairman of the board

    It’s basically a net zero hedge fund.

    Trevor Neilson has also worked for the Bill & Melinda gates foundation and Princes Charitable trust, so he’s got real experience in the Philanthrocapitalism industry

    Wastefuels ltd is a Berkshire Hathaway startup that’s partnered with Maersk shipping to develop waste to fuel energy


    In short. They fund the protest action as a form of investment that generates interest in their zero carbon companies. Advertisement. They then get investment in their zero carbon companies and have a financial incentive to generate the most buzzy hypey protest stuff possible, not because it’s effective but because it has the highest advertising impact for them - providing something that attracts and sells to investors about how effective they are at generating attention.

    tl;dr - they’re profiting off of climate activism

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      hey cde where’s the source? i didnt see the text in the posted article… wanna share it with someone if you don’t mind providing it

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        Independent researching I did a while back. You’ll have to specifically look up CEF and individuals involved and connect it all together as I have not seen anyone write about it. We dug around back when some sus people were trying to contact the /r/greenandpleasant modteam about doing AMAs and possible further “partnerships”. We also needed to know what the subreddit’s party line on the topic of JSO should be and all of this ended up being how we came to the final decision to kill topics about them.

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      When I search what you wrote, it says that even though CEF gave money to JSO in the past, Trevor Neilson left CEF in 2021 and condemned JSO as only disruptive in June 2023.

      What you wrote doesn’t seem up to date. It would seem that JSO went in a different direction.

      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/just-stop-oil-extinction-rebellion-donor-climate-activists-counterproductive-b1090030.html

      Also this article from from November 2023 says that JSO only received 2% of it’s funding from CEF. That doesn’t seem as significant as your post claims.

      https://time.com/6334072/just-stop-oil-climate-change-activist-group/

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        It was up to date as of 11 months ago when I originally wrote it. Whether Neilson has fallen out with his collaborators and since “condemned” them in the media doesn’t matter much though. The setup of JSO itself continues to be that of a grift for investments in funds. Might need some research doing to update it along the exact lines of whatever orgs are now involved and called, possibly names have changed or whatever, but I’m confident the overall grift going on is this.

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    The amount of outrage stuff like this gets vs the actual effects of climate change makes me sick. Also disappointing how many people don’t realize similar tactics were used by other movements. The history of protesting and social wins has been erased.

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    why can’t they do this on a bank or oil company’s facilities somewhere. Pal Action and others in the Pal solidarity movement have advanced these kinds of tactics with their targeted and highly-visible campaigns against various companies complicit in the genocide in Palestine, it’s stupid for JSO to continue with these late 2010s radlib style actions that do very little good for the movement. go put paint on some actually unpopular target, and aim not to get arrested. stop doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

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      Just Stop Oil is an advertisement for investors.

      Their process is attention grabbing high exposure protest that is then used as a form of advertising and “this is our impact” to philanthropy investors. It’s essentially a business. Some notes I took in a chat when doing research with a friend:

      Trevor Neilson, alongside Rory Kennedy and Aileen Getty are founders of the CEF (Climate Emergency Fund)

      Trevor Neilson is a director of Wastefuels limited with Aileen Getty and Nck hurd mp

      Trevor Neilson is a co-founder of I (x) Net zero, Nick Hurd is a chairman of the board

      It’s basically a net zero hedge fund.

      Trevor Neilson has also worked for the Bill & Melinda gates foundation and Princes Charitable trust, so he’s got real experience in the Philanthrocapitalism industry

      Wastefuels ltd is a Berkshire Hathaway startup that’s partnered with Maersk shipping to develop waste to fuel energy


      In short. They fund the protest action as a form of investment that generates interest in their zero carbon companies. Advertisement. They then get investment in their zero carbon companies and have a financial incentive to generate the most buzzy hypey protest stuff possible, not because it’s effective but because it has the highest advertising impact for them - providing something that attracts and sells to investors about how effective they are at generating attention.

      tl;dr - they’re profiting off of climate activism

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    It’s performative nonsense but at the same time I think’s it’s funny and they should keep doing it because if the world is gonna end anyway, then it should end with demons being pissed off

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    Palestine Action just exposes how impotent these other groups are. I think at this point any sincere person within these controlled opposition orgs are better off just quitting their org and joining Palestine Action. And it’s not like everyone in Palestine Action is smashing windows and drone parts. There’s plenty of red paint being sprayed on buildings, so there should be nothing stopping people of these crappy orgs from joining Palestine Action and putting their paint-vandalizing skills to good use for once.

    Palestine Action goes after drone factories and banks that support the genocide in Gaza while these other orgs go after rando targets that have nothing to do with climate change.

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      According to Just Stop Oil’s website, the pigment was made of an “orange cornflour” that would wash away in the rain.

      calm down lil bro