Features. Their Mail doesn’t work for me because I want SMTP and IMAP. Their cloud storage does not do Linux and can’t be automated, their applications just seem rushed
That is wrong. STARTLS exists, besides imaps and smtps are a thing. I don’t see any reason to do the weird bridge thing.
Bridge exists and works on a desktop but IMO it just does not make sense to add a proxy server running in my own device. Besides, I cannot use it (properly) on headless devices, especially with virtualization. Using a proper mobile client is completely not an option for mobile devices.
Community versions of bridge exist, but none are officially supported. I could change the source of the original bridge to host it on my server (not just on the loopback interface, which is literally hardcoded).
Besides, there is no calendar or contacts sync. Birthdays don’t get added to the calendar. Many more things. Their ideals are admirable, their email hosting just works for what features they offer (even custom domain), but it does not adhere to standard email stuff and features you find literally everywhere. For some users that may be okay but I decided its not okay for me.
@PlexSheep I don’t think you understand how Proton stores email on their servers. STARTTLS, imaps, and smtps all encrypt during transport, but would require the server to have a decrypted copy. Since they use zero-access encryption to store emails, that’s not possible.
Features. Their Mail doesn’t work for me because I want SMTP and IMAP. Their cloud storage does not do Linux and can’t be automated, their applications just seem rushed
@PlexSheep @MrPoopbutt SMTP and IMAP are impossible since they can’t decrypt your data. They do have https://proton.me/mail/bridge to enable you to use those protocols, however.
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That is wrong. STARTLS exists, besides imaps and smtps are a thing. I don’t see any reason to do the weird bridge thing.
Bridge exists and works on a desktop but IMO it just does not make sense to add a proxy server running in my own device. Besides, I cannot use it (properly) on headless devices, especially with virtualization. Using a proper mobile client is completely not an option for mobile devices.
Community versions of bridge exist, but none are officially supported. I could change the source of the original bridge to host it on my server (not just on the loopback interface, which is literally hardcoded).
Besides, there is no calendar or contacts sync. Birthdays don’t get added to the calendar. Many more things. Their ideals are admirable, their email hosting just works for what features they offer (even custom domain), but it does not adhere to standard email stuff and features you find literally everywhere. For some users that may be okay but I decided its not okay for me.
@PlexSheep I don’t think you understand how Proton stores email on their servers. STARTTLS, imaps, and smtps all encrypt during transport, but would require the server to have a decrypted copy. Since they use zero-access encryption to store emails, that’s not possible.
See https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained
Okay, I that makes sense, but still IMAP and SMTP are the standard. At least let me self host bridge on my server.
The only real solution would be PGP, but that has a pretty bad usability.