so you fall into the camp of not knowing the consequences.
the issue inherently is that the power imbalance of stuff like wealth inequality, coupled with material conditions, always end up curtailing the freedoms of those who are not on top, ironically making them less free (bit of an irony, eh?)
Not sure what consequences you are talking about or what you are even arguing about. I agree with the second paragraph as would most libertarian outside the US so I’m like double confused.
that a lack of government does not equal an increase in freedom, instead it just allows those with power to exert it more directly upon the less well off.
Yet at no point did I ever mention any outcome of any libertarian belief or even mention if it was superior to anything. So again: How does that connect to my point?
Also I’d suggest you read the wiki, even that ain’t true: Not all libertarian ideologies want to abolish the government. But that’s beside the point.
to believe in something means you must hold the belief that something is superior to all other options.
as for the abolishment of the government, sure, some want a minarchy instead, the issue is that a weak government is literally as good as none at all, or may even be worse, as for example a government that only cares about policing will just become the paid thugs of the powerful
so you fall into the camp of not knowing the consequences.
the issue inherently is that the power imbalance of stuff like wealth inequality, coupled with material conditions, always end up curtailing the freedoms of those who are not on top, ironically making them less free (bit of an irony, eh?)
Not sure what consequences you are talking about or what you are even arguing about. I agree with the second paragraph as would most libertarian outside the US so I’m like double confused.
my point exactly, and no libertarians outside the USA still advocate for low government interference
Care to fill me in on the point?
that a lack of government does not equal an increase in freedom, instead it just allows those with power to exert it more directly upon the less well off.
OK, how does that connect to the point of libertarian means a completely different thing in the US?
because the outcome is the same
Yet at no point did I ever mention any outcome of any libertarian belief or even mention if it was superior to anything. So again: How does that connect to my point?
Also I’d suggest you read the wiki, even that ain’t true: Not all libertarian ideologies want to abolish the government. But that’s beside the point.
to believe in something means you must hold the belief that something is superior to all other options.
as for the abolishment of the government, sure, some want a minarchy instead, the issue is that a weak government is literally as good as none at all, or may even be worse, as for example a government that only cares about policing will just become the paid thugs of the powerful