• Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml
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    Open-source and unmoderated are 2 very different things.

    Lemmy is open source so you got this already.

    As for an instance without an admin, there can’t be such a thing. An instance has to be hosted on some server and this server belongs to somebody that has to maintain it.

    A community without a mod doesn’t exist, as a community has to be founded by someone to exist.

    Now, do you really want a community without an active mod ? Well if you want spam, bots and shitty content, sure.

    If your problem is power tripping mods, just leave the communities with such mods.

    Or you can run your own Lemmy instance and see how it goes.

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    Roll your own? The thing is most of us left Reddit because of decisions from ownership. Administration forcing Reddit apps to pay insanely high fees while not fixing the official Reddit app to be more accessible for blind people and to have the tools needed to moderate communities is why we left…

    The people that left because of “micromanaging moderators and admins” left when they closed r/jailbait if you wanna invite those creeps back go ahead and make your own

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    Unmoderated? You want a Neo-Nazi community? Because that’s how you get a Neo-Nazi community.

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        Do it! Run a server! Stake your reputation, and time, on that community with no rules.

        Honestly I’m surprised there isn’t one already.

        Lemmy.512chan.site or something

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          All that will happen is you will be defederated. Lemmy.world has made it clear it will defederate any unmoderated instances for one, and other will follow.

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            True, but it’s a individual server choice. If the anarchy server figures out balance maybe they could have their own fediverse :)

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            I know the chans we’re using powers of two so I just used a slightly larger power of two to indicate how ridiculous it would be

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        Recently there was some rich guy who wanted free speech so badly he bought the entire social network, and then he proceeded to unban Nazis and child porn posters, but would ban users who would criticize him, or talk about his business habits.

        Forget free speech. That’s a code word for Nazis wanting to be unhinged.

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        What does “truly free speech” mean to you? This doesn’t seem to be about not being able to post a picture in a lawncare sub.

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      Its weird you folks are hyper focused on racism and sexualization of kids when im talking about allowing a fricken picture in a lawncare sub. If only mods wouldnt power trip youd actually have a solid point.

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        I’m an admin of an instance and the reports I see from our users on “unmoderated” communities haunt me to this day…

        I can 100% guarantee you that any community that has zero to no moderation WILL turn into a Nazi and CSAM cestpool.

        There is no if, only a when…and that when is answered with “very quickly”

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        The point is those things would be there pretty much immediately.

        Just today I got a report of someone spamming a picture of a woman eating a shit. That user was banned.

        Now imagine no one banning those people - everyone would be getting the picture.

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        You don’t need your own server/instance to start a community. Find an server/instance and start your community. As long as you don’t break instance rules the admins shouldn’t mess with you.

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    People have tried the “anarchist forum” approach and it literally never ends well and devolves into chaos. Even 4chan has ground rules and moderators (known as janitors)

    I know a lot of people have a knee-jerk reaction to hate them but the platform is really much better with them.

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    I guess the idea is that if that’s what you want, you’re meant to run your own server.

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    Dude breaks the rules on a lawncare sub and now he wants to create a safe space for Nazis lol. Sounds like Elon 2.0

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    You kind of have it right now just go to usenet. Pretty much zero moderation, anybody can say anything, but there’s nobody there to listen. Because it’s too noisy. Heck even the spammers gave up, there was nobody there to spam. It wasn’t even worth spamming anymore

    You can always run your own server with your own rules even if that rule is no rules.

    The beautiful thing about the fediverse nothing stopping from someone running a server like that. Maybe common sense but nobody else is stopping them.

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      Its hard to find middle ground btwn keeping spammers out, and the random mods who create silly rules “you cant post questions with vowels” “or you cant post pictures” …in a lawncare sub. Mods are good but they need very limited power.

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        I see what you’re saying, but ultimately it’s a reputation thing. There will be a moderation team who hits your sweet spot of hands off versus removing annoying content.

        From a programmatic perspective designing infrastructure where people can’t remove things leads to the anarchy of usenet.

        But I’m hopeful that you will find a group that follows your moderation objectives and you can verify it like looking at the mod log. So it’s going to be all reputation anyway

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            Usenet is a network communication system developed in the early 1980s. Way older than Lemmy, older than even the world wide web.

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              It still runs to this day, but much like moss isely it’s a hive of scum and villainy.

              I’m sure there’s some holdout discussions still happening there, but it’s mostly binary postings for piracy nowadays

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        I get what you’re staying, but frankly your OP question sounds pretty silly considering what the issue is.

        The idea is, everyone can run their communities as they like… Even with such stupid rules as no pictures in a lawn comm, or US politics only in a politics comm on a world instance. Kinda sad in such cases, but otherwise the mods and admins are there for mostly good reasons.

        You can almost always find comms or instances more to your liking, or try and start your own.