Was reading a university sub-reddit-logo and I saw the same two hypocrisy gotcha responses from chuds.

1 ) These protesters should go live in Gaza since they keep complaining. I don’t see the logic here? The protesters don’t like the place getting bombed so they should go to that place and experience the bombing themselves? If anything shouldn’t it be the opposite? That people who think current treatment of Gazans is justified should go experience Gaza for themselves to walk a mile in their shoes? Now that I think about it, maybe the logic behind the gotcha is that alternative left-wing types would not be accepted in a socially conservative muslim country? Even if that were true, still doesn’t mean kids from there should get bombed.

2 ) The protesters are against the walls and checkpoints encircling Gaza from, yet the protesters have barricaded their encampment with a plastic sheath so they can control who comes in and out. So are the chuds here saying they’re against all barricades including the Gaza one? Or are they saying they agree all barricades are bad? Or just hypocrisy in and of itself is bad? Denouncing the wall is fine, as long you stay consistent and also don’t use a plastic barricade yourself? How are these things even being equated in the first place? Oh you’re against the Berlin Wall yet your apartment complex has a fence behind the dumpsters. You’re a hypocrite which is the real crime here.

Anyway I know I’m preaching to the choir. How do you all deal with braindead smug gotchas? I guess it’s time to touch grass?

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Chuds are dumb and also don’t care at all if what they’re saying is actually true, it’s bad faith gotchas all the way down. Rhetoric is a game to them, with zero consequences except getting to feel smug. They’ll happily adopt whatever position let’s them get an own in, even if it means ridiculous stuff like insisting everyone be “pro-barricade” or “anti-barricade” regardless of context. Don’t ever go in assuming you can reason with them, just post PPB and tell them to post hog.

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      6 months ago

      My dad argues this way. You know what happens when I utterly destroy whatever stupid thing he just said? Absolutely nothing, no reaction, no effect, no acknowledgement. He just moves on to the next stupid point. It’s just throwing up chaff and hoping you lose interest in plunging through the bullshit. They know what they are saying is wrong and stupid and flawed. They might even know the counterarguments. They’ve almost certainly used it in an argument and had it dispatched before (my dad tends to reuse talking points I killed some weeks earlier). They don’t care.