Nice to see more empirical backing of the Bullshit Jobs theory graeber

The research found that people working in finance, sales and managerial roles are much more likely than others on average to think their jobs are useless or unhelpful to others.

The study, by Simon Walo, of Zurich University, Switzerland, is the first to give quantitative support to a theory put forward by the American anthropologist David Graeber in 2018 that many jobs were “bullshit”—socially useless and meaningless.

  • outlander [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I don’t think this supports grabbers thesis a lot of bullshit jobs add value to the production process we saw in the tech lay off this year they rehired a bunch of them for more money after these realized they added so much value collectively they made operations profitable.

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I understood gaebers thesis on bullshit jobs as a way for anarchists to match Marxist bouguous decadence theory, its something else too but i cant rember. like we have a medical industry that is more expensive then having single payer but decadence of having an insurance industry is hard for capital to over come.

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      1 year ago

      “socially useless and meaningless” is the phrasing they used

      The average ad tech engineer at Google or Meta probably provides a couple dozen millions of revenue to the company but socially, it’s useless and meaningless

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      What is “bourgeois decadence theory?” I thought bourgeois decadence was just a way of comparing the capitalists to popular depictions of romans during the fall of Rome?

      I think it came more out of Graeber’s desire to provide a left wing critique of bueracracy in order to take it back from the right and correct some of the missteps of previous socialist movements. It’s in the same vein as Utopia of Rules imo.

      There’s also lots of “bullshit jobs” in Graeber that still aid in valorization. Lawyers for example. The issue is that their role is only relevant in our particular social context. You can make a movie without lawyers in theory, but can’t in reality (if you want it to sell). So lawyers, who aren’t redundant, can still look at their work and go “this is pointless, jurassic park could get made with or without me.”