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This is embarrassing but I cried when SHillary lost to Trump.

  • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Whiteness isn’t simply the physical trait of having pale skin, in the way being tall is a physical trait. An entire social scaffolding has been built around the physical quality of pale skin, that denotes the absence of race, the presence of “normalcy”, “purity”, “superiority”, and therefore a place at the top of a racial hierarchy.

    But at the same time, whiteness is like the fucking Borg. In the US especially, the concept of whiteness assimilated a ton of different ethnic groups, robbed them of their language and culture, and left gringos like me with no culture to speak of, beyond getting run over by a Ford F250, while on your way to get a Big Mac.

    And there’s no real way to recover that cultural identity. Like, ok, I have Irish ancestry, but what does that really mean at this point? No one in my family has spoken Gaelic for generations and St Patrick’s Day is just a reason for white people to get hammered. And in many ways, that’s a horrendous tragedy, and a deep psychic wound in the minds of the settler population on this continent. There’s a reason Americans love Genealogy. It’s because they have no actual connection to the land they live on, so they scrape for some past, that the whiteness and colonialism which they benefit from, has also robbed from them.

    That said, though I’m white, I’m also bi and trans. My queerness ties me to a history and a culture that’s much more tangible then what your average straight, mayo, American has. So while I personally like to joke that “my ethnicity is removed”, It’s incredibly difficult to “not be white” in that socio-cultural sense. Because whiteness is so all consuming. There’s no individual way to “stop being white”, the only way forward is to abolish whiteness as a category.

    Edit: Mods are erasing my ethnicity! I will not be silenced! /s

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.net
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      Agh my family actually succeeded at this supposedly “impossible” task so I legit have a lot of thoughts and opinions about the path towards white dissimilation and abolition and the form it might take, I just cannot find the right way to phrase it without getting misinterpreted aghhhh

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          I’ve written like four drafts or something for an effortpost about this but GOD WILLING if I can work out the kinks I will share it later today (GOD WILLING)

          But yeah it’s like, “how do we kill whiteness” feels like one of those topics where people here actually do tend to agree on a lot if not most of the basics, but people still just tend to be uncharitable (not maliciously ofc) with how they interpret others, and this causes conflicts to emerge basically out of thin air… I think that’s what makes whiteness a thornier issue to write about than it really needs to be, because I feel like I just have to constantly assure readers that yes I have accounted for this-and-that Actually, and no I am not saying such-and-such In Fact — otherwise I get paranoid I’m gonna get anta-baka’d over things that I wasn’t actually trying to say, blech

          Edit: in fact the problem of misinterpretation I’m describing already happened in this very thread as I was writing this comment, and I hadn’t even said anything other than “white dissimilation” and “my family succeeded”

          Edit 2: in fact that person wasn’t actually trying to misinterpret me but I assumed he was, ironically

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        I don’t think the answer (for white people) to “race is a social construct” should be “go one-drop yourself into an ethnic history you’ve never experienced and are half making up on the spot.” If my great-great-great grandma is from Spain but the last few generations of my family lived in Flyover USA, it’d be pretty weird for me to wake up one day and go around telling everyone I’m Spanish. Weirder still if that ancestor was from Catalonia and I try to say I’m personally affected by the Catalan independence movement.

        A better response is to not actively identify with any race or ethnicity and try to do things that address the damage done by those concepts.