• spacesweedkid27 @lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I think Dune has very many themes, but the biggest one is the dangers of religion (which is not really portrayed in the movie I think)

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      The 2022 movie covers the first half of the first book and that theme only really comes into its own in books 2 and 3.

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        I mean, I feel like manipulating a whole culture’s established religious beliefs to place themself at the highest seat of power and war a holy war in their name is a pretty poignant display of “religion bad, m’kay”

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          Yeah but if you don’t know about the books it doesn’t necessarily look like manipulation. That’s only made overt when you read the latter books

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            My partner never read the books and easily caught the massive religious manipulation angle through the film. The even more massive scale of it all was obviously not revealed because of when it takes place, but it’s still present

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              Helps that it’s outright stated near the beginning of the movie.

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            If you haven’t read the books the movie makes no sense. It’s nothing but a string of half-ass book references and pretty scenery. Even having read the books the movie was still all over the place. It was a string of individual scenes with barely anything to connect them besides having the same characters.

            And since I’m finally venting about it, if they were going to just focus on visuals, they could have at least gotten the scale right. They have these giant buildings and ships alluding to a mass of people keeping it operational. Then we never see more than like, 6 people. And the one scene where they pulled out all of the people at the climax, where it makes sense to show every soldier during an all hands emergency, we see, like, 50 people. They’re supposed to have thousands of soldiers. Losing a dozen soldiers in the book would have been acceptable losses. The movie force we see, that would cripple them.

            Also, it should have ended just after the attack. Use all that extra time to actual get you invested in House Atreides and Paul. In anything really. That movie was so bad. I’ve always like Lynch’s Dune for it’s insanity, but compared to the new one, it’s a legitimately good movie. At least there’s a story.

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        Ok, either the internet can’t identify a great joke or… no, I guess the only reasonable explanation is that your comment whooshed over people’s heads.

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          It’s all good, I mean I read both of the books like ages ago and those were the only things that bubbled up out of the scary dark corners of my memory when the opportunity presented itself.

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        You don´t mean that abomination made by Lynch that shits all over the book do you?!?

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          I mean one of the single best sci-fi movies of all time made by Lynch that takes out all the religious garbage and keeps the worms.